@Runescryer

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@Meg said in DWOPP-spotting:

After I posted this, people pointed out the Jean/Warren scene as the primary example of this behavior, and I admit, I had skimmed over that and hadn’t really read it while focusing on other things. That is my bad, and that scene does show some bad behavior. I do wish we had more examples like that, especially with Lithium claiming that it was asked for by Jean.

(Which, I do not believe. I don’t believe someone speaking for someone else like that, because it could have just as easily been something like Lithium bugging OOCly about shipping their characters and Jean just finally going ‘well, flirt more IC! We’ll see how it goes!’ to let them down easy.)

There is a posted Log of the Scene in which Jean ICly asks Warren if they can be more flirty. It was prior to the scene in which I am being a supposed creep.

Just because I have had some incidents in the past that have not been favorable does not mean I have not learned, and changed, I would hope that nobody here still plays exactly the same they did 30 years ago, 20, 10, or even 5 or 1.

We grow, we change, I see lots of talk about people getting opportunities to change, and yet, nobody wants to believe that I cannot have made sure things were cool OOCly with people before starting up any sort of romantic RP, or how I must have been gaslighting people when I try to make sure everyone is comfortable in RP all the time.

That’s really hard.

Really hard.

I’ve been playing still for years and yet, all it takes is one person to get butthurt and make crazy accusations that are unsupported by reality and…

Yeah.

Thank you too the few people who wanted actual proof before nailing me to the cross, and thank you to the few who did step up about how I am not the Charles Manson of the MU*'ing community.

@foksthery You must be new.

A) I am banned there, for whatever reason, so I am clearly not playing there anymore. Try again.

B) Someone accusing someone else of DWOPP levels of toxicity and abusive behavior? Yeah, that’s going to get a reaction. Especially when you were listed in the ‘banned’ post.

I woke up to friends on Discord going ‘WTF? What happened?’ and me going ?? I have no clue, let me logon, only to find out I couldn’t log on.

Then, another discord friend tells me: Someone’s accusing you of being DWOPP on MSB and BMD. So, I decide to dust off my account that I haven’t used (ETA: in years) on MSB to figure out WTF is going on.

Lo and Behold, someone made baseless accusations against me of being the worst kind of MU’er and the dog pile commences.

I respond, as one does, when they’re being smeared.

That’s how this all works.

I did not play Scott. Scott was played by @pru, I have no idea why they were banned, I had no idea why anyone was banned.

@GF If there are people who are talking to you, about me, then I was never approached by anyone having negative feelings. I cannot address things I do not know about. I wish if anyone had negative feelings about me, I would have known, so that I could try to fix that and make sure things were good moving forwards, or even know, so I would not attempt to RP with people again who might be uncomfortable with my RP.

At the very least, I would apologize, because making people feel weird or uncomfortable is the farthest thing from what I want to do.

I admit there has been bad blood that has happened long in the past, but in the recent past the only person I know of who has had bad blood with me on a game, is @visquaine/Entropy and I left that situation for reasons I outlined elsewhere.

I can bring receipts to that whole situation too.

I changed to @cinder on IA because I wanted to wash my hands of all the drama that had sprung up from that whole situation, as a lot of trust had been broken, I was attempting a clean start without any of that baggage.

Then when the page conversation with Runescryer happened, I notified Jupiter and said this was a potential problem I wanted to get ahead of things. Jupiter said he would address it, and asked that I don’t respond to Betsy or contact her. I said fine, I absolutely understood, and I honestly wanted nothing more to do with that whole thing.

If there are people who are uncomfortable around me, it is the least I can do to apologize, and make sure those situations don’t happen again, as it is the farthest from my intentions.

It’s entirely possible that @GF is speaking the truth, sometimes people don’t see things the same way, or RP styles don’t mesh, but I cannot say I /know/ of anything, because other than Runescryer’s page conversation and the mess with Betsy, I thought everything was golden.

As far as Betsy goes, I didn’t even consider Warren taking a shot at Betsy, he was making jokes about the paparazzi, and I can understand why someone might have considered that in a different light looking back on it, the reason Warren left that RP, and decided to not really interact with Betsy anymore is because she ICly started going on this ‘I am so powerful, and bad ass, and have all this stuff’ and it got old.

After all this sidetrack though, @GF these individuals you speak of, I truly am sorry that they felt bothered by any sort of RP we had. I wish I had known about their concerns so I could try to allay them and understand they didn’t wish to RP with me so I wouldn’t have approached them again (If I did) for RP.

I did not play Scott. Scott was played by @pru, I have no idea why they were banned, I had no idea why anyone was banned.

@GF If there are people who are talking to you, about me, then I was never approached by anyone having negative feelings. I cannot address things I do not know about. I wish if anyone had negative feelings about me, I would have known, so that I could try to fix that and make sure things were good moving forwards, or even know, so I would not attempt to RP with people again who might be uncomfortable with my RP.

At the very least, I would apologize, because making people feel weird or uncomfortable is the farthest thing from what I want to do.

I admit there has been bad blood that has happened long in the past, but in the recent past the only person I know of who has had bad blood with me on a game, is @visquaine/Entropy and I left that situation for reasons I outlined elsewhere.

I can bring receipts to that whole situation too.

I changed to @cinder on IA because I wanted to wash my hands of all the drama that had sprung up from that whole situation, as a lot of trust had been broken, I was attempting a clean start without any of that baggage.

Then when the page conversation with Runescryer happened, I notified Jupiter and said this was a potential problem I wanted to get ahead of things. Jupiter said he would address it, and asked that I don’t respond to Betsy or contact her. I said fine, I absolutely understood, and I honestly wanted nothing more to do with that whole thing.

If there are people who are uncomfortable around me, it is the least I can do to apologize, and make sure those situations don’t happen again, as it is the farthest from my intentions.

It’s entirely possible that @GF is speaking the truth, sometimes people don’t see things the same way, or RP styles don’t mesh, but I cannot say I /know/ of anything, because other than Runescryer’s page conversation and the mess with Betsy, I thought everything was golden.

As far as Betsy goes, I didn’t even consider Warren taking a shot at Betsy, he was making jokes about the paparazzi, and I can understand why someone might have considered that in a different light looking back on it, the reason Warren left that RP, and decided to not really interact with Betsy anymore is because she ICly started going on this ‘I am so powerful, and bad ass, and have all this stuff’ and it got old.

After all this sidetrack though, @GF these individuals you speak of, I truly am sorry that they felt bothered by any sort of RP we had. I wish I had known about their concerns so I could try to allay them and understand they didn’t wish to RP with me so I wouldn’t have approached them again (If I did) for RP.

@Meg said in DWOPP-spotting:

After I posted this, people pointed out the Jean/Warren scene as the primary example of this behavior, and I admit, I had skimmed over that and hadn’t really read it while focusing on other things. That is my bad, and that scene does show some bad behavior. I do wish we had more examples like that, especially with Lithium claiming that it was asked for by Jean.

(Which, I do not believe. I don’t believe someone speaking for someone else like that, because it could have just as easily been something like Lithium bugging OOCly about shipping their characters and Jean just finally going ‘well, flirt more IC! We’ll see how it goes!’ to let them down easy.)

There is a posted Log of the Scene in which Jean ICly asks Warren if they can be more flirty. It was prior to the scene in which I am being a supposed creep.

Just because I have had some incidents in the past that have not been favorable does not mean I have not learned, and changed, I would hope that nobody here still plays exactly the same they did 30 years ago, 20, 10, or even 5 or 1.

We grow, we change, I see lots of talk about people getting opportunities to change, and yet, nobody wants to believe that I cannot have made sure things were cool OOCly with people before starting up any sort of romantic RP, or how I must have been gaslighting people when I try to make sure everyone is comfortable in RP all the time.

That’s really hard.

Really hard.

I’ve been playing still for years and yet, all it takes is one person to get butthurt and make crazy accusations that are unsupported by reality and…

Yeah.

Thank you too the few people who wanted actual proof before nailing me to the cross, and thank you to the few who did step up about how I am not the Charles Manson of the MU*'ing community.

@Runescryer

I.
Am.
Not.
A.
HIM.

@foksthery You must be new.

A) I am banned there, for whatever reason, so I am clearly not playing there anymore. Try again.

B) Someone accusing someone else of DWOPP levels of toxicity and abusive behavior? Yeah, that’s going to get a reaction. Especially when you were listed in the ‘banned’ post.

I woke up to friends on Discord going ‘WTF? What happened?’ and me going ?? I have no clue, let me logon, only to find out I couldn’t log on.

Then, another discord friend tells me: Someone’s accusing you of being DWOPP on MSB and BMD. So, I decide to dust off my account that I haven’t used (ETA: in years) on MSB to figure out WTF is going on.

Lo and Behold, someone made baseless accusations against me of being the worst kind of MU’er and the dog pile commences.

I respond, as one does, when they’re being smeared.

That’s how this all works.

@foksthery Because I have every right to defend myself and speak out against false accusations?

@Misskatonic I’m sure that is exactly what happened.

Pardon me if I find that impossible to believe.

@Misskatonic said in DWOPP-spotting:

@Coin Can’t speak for this game, but at the game I had to ban him from, the specific behavior in question isn’t being given at the request of the victim.

You never banned me, to my knowledge, after all the stuff that went down on ElseVerse, I left, of my own accord, because A) When Headstaff doesn’t follow their own posted rules, and B) No Contacts you for responding to their own IC actions in an appropriate IC way, C) It’s clearly not a place that is going to be a fun environment anymore.

So, if you banned me after I left… then ok.

Don’t try and twist this to something it’s not. I can provide receipts too.