@Warma-Sheen said in AI In Poses:

@somasatori said in AI In Poses:

I have a question. What do you get out of MUSHing, a hobby wherein you write paragraphs at people in a turn-based format, when you’re not actually doing the writing? What’s the end goal there?

I’ve had this conversation with more than a few people and one of the most common themes that came up: an experience as close to tabletop gaming as possible, but without being crapped on because of not being able to put out AP English writing or wait 20 minutes per exchange for all the editing.

MU*ers can be catty, judgemental, petty, elitist, etc… to a higher degree than any I’ve ever known, probably to do with internet anonymity, which is one of the reasons the hobby continues to grow smaller and smaller. I’ve never known a community so highly motivated/invested in killing itself off as intensely as this one, and I’ve known some pretty shitty communities in my life (I’m old… er now.)

People show up to MU*s for very different reasons and it sometimes seems like a large number of people assume that everyone else around them is there for the exact same reason as them then get frustrated/confused when they don’t play the way they would.

I’ve had the conversation on other threads, so I won’t get into it again here if people reply back to tell me all the ways I’m wrong, but taking a tool that improves writing and using it on text based game seems like it would be a godsend to cure many of the ills that people have complained endlessly about for decades - bad writing, lack of storytellers, no interesting plots.

But to each, their own. People will feel how they feel about it and that’s okay, I guess. Its just sad for me cause I loved this hobby and I really thought this might actually put some life back into it, like CPR. So it was disappointing/sad/whatever when all the villagers pointed at the thing that could bring someone back to life thereby improving the outlook/prosperity of the entire community, called it a witch, and want it burned at the stake.

ETA: Not for nothing, but to go along with the analogy, some non-small portion of the thread is basically a witch hunt - with dubious degrees of accuracy.

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@Ashkuri Sending Cujo nudes?

Oh, it’s a troublesome character even if you remove the ableism.

Deep in my little black heart I have this desire to app a comics game as the demon Baytor, a sort of tube with teeth that shouts “I AM BAYTOR!” a lot and does little else.

Baytor yelling "I AM BAYTOR!!: in someone's face

This is a bad, bad idea, obviously bad. It might be okay if I made sure Baytor could only be found where it’s found in the comics, working as a bartender at a certain pub, completely easy to avoid, and treated it as a sort of NPC I depict while playing a reasonbly PC-written-PC primarily.

@Cobalt said in MU Peeves Thread:

Oh, now I remember why I don’t go to new games. The overwhelming feeling that I am not welcome anywhere. (This is nothing anyone has done or said to me, this is my own brain being an asshole to me.)

scribbles note Write… specific characters… for Cobalt… got it.

@Pavel said in Warma-Sheen:

I would be punished for things that the imaginary friend did.

Suddenly, the imaginary friend disappeared.

So she not only punished you for what your friend did, but she killed them, too? Kinda fucked up.

@Tez said in Prove Tez Wrong:

@Jennkryst That explains a lot about my household, including the faking coughing and ‘boo, you whore’ earlier today.

aheh aheh i’m sick 😞

@Jennkryst a man in a brown jacket is pointing in front of a sign that says that 's true

@somasatori said in Multisphere pressure:

@Warma-Sheen said in Multisphere pressure:

I suspect… that some of them are looking for a “specific” type of RP.

The other meaning of the acronym “CBT”

a man with a mustache and a sweater that says i mean that 's nuts

Also contractually obligated to make that joke.

@catzilla

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But in all seriousness, I could elaborate on it. I just vastly prefer the theme of nWoD changeling to oWoD changeling and think it fits the mould of a pet project of mine… which is kind of a small-town Americana murder/mystery thing. I could actually read nWoD werewolf, but I don’t wanna and I like Apocalypse more!

@Jumpscare

Egelman et al. (2020) and Ferreira et al. (2021) both report that negative interpersonal interactions—ranging from subtle pushback to overt incivility—can provoke frustration, stress, and defensive reactions. Both highlight the role of code review processes, organisational policies, and power imbalances in shaping negative experiences. Ferreira et al. (2021) provides detailed evidence of uncivil behaviours, including name-calling, impatience, and personal attacks, with 66.66% of non-technical emails in their sample exhibiting such features.

Behroozi et al. (2019) finds that technical interviews are perceived as arbitrary, high-pressure, and disconnected from real-world work, with systemic biases favouring younger candidates and those with more leisure time. They also report that candidates experience dismissive attitudes, lack of empathy, and adversarial interviewer behaviour, leading to feelings of humiliation and offence.

So it seems, at least in corpo-professional contexts, that process design, power dynamics, and communication styles are the primary drivers of cynical interpersonal behaviours, rather than individual predisposition. But this is just based on a very brief skim of the literature, more research must be done, etc, etc, etc.

ETA: tl;dr people=shit and if you treat coders like shit they’ll not be happy, I guess.

References:

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Egelman, C. D., Murphy-Hill, E., Kammer, E., Hodges, M. M., Green, C., Jaspan, C., & Lin, J. (2020). Predicting developers’ negative feelings about code review. Proceedings of the ACM/IEEE 42nd International Conference on Software Engineering, 174–185. https://doi.org/10.1145/3377811.3380414

Ferreira, I., Cheng, J., & Adams, B. (2021). The “Shut the f**k up” Phenomenon: Characterizing Incivility in Open Source Code Review Discussions. Proceedings of the ACM on Human-Computer Interaction, 5(CSCW2), 1–35. https://doi.org/10.1145/3479497

Behroozi, M., Parnin, C., & Barik, T. (2019). Hiring is Broken: What Do Developers Say About Technical Interviews? 2019 IEEE Symposium on Visual Languages and Human-Centric Computing (VL/HCC), 1–9. https://doi.org/10.1109/vlhcc.2019.8818836

@MayorMccheez The ‘went to headstaff’ bit was news to me.

I’m just saying that getting a nice present in the post can be a creepy thing and pointing out that it was a nice and not creepy present doesn’t change this possibility.

Honestly, we’re more friendly than friends. We’re not close. I had fun RPing with him. I would play with him again. I’m not on Retro, and a major reason for that is that there are players and staff there where my experience has been that they do have habits of being manipulative, gatekeepy, mean, dishonest, and likely to smear-campaign others. So that happening here seems plausible to me.

Pigeon Too Fat To Fly

There was nothing special or secret about the pigeon. This just reminded me of it.

@Pavel said in Liberation Drama!?:

This is a joke.

a close up of a man in a green elf costume with the words `` you sit on a throne of lies '' .

@tsar said in Your Latest Batch of (Silly) Drama:

@dvoraen I’m about to have so many snails.

Does this mean you’re playing this game and are going to catch a lot of croblings snails?

@Pavel said in Echoes of the Past: Problem Players:

@Aria said in Echoes of the Past: Problem Players:

‘A close up of a man with a mustache and a suit.’

Fair True GIF

a cartoon of a man holding a piece of paper that says you are technically correct

@Arik No idea!

Just yesterday I said I was impressed that Liberation was going strong after its rough start.

The recent alarm seems like the general slowness that happens this time of year. To compare, I only ran about 3 events during the entire holiday season on Silent Heaven, when I usually do at least 2 per week. I suspect things will gradually pick up as the solstice grows further behind us.

https://armageddonmud.boards.net/thread/1246/armageddon-mud-crumples-ground

Game owners locked the official forum but kind of like WORA/SOAPBOX/This place there was an unofficial forum discussing issues with the game. Realistically they rebooted from 20 avg to 80 avg and then in 5 months fell back to 20 avg. With dwindling numbers and systemic community issues they likely just decided it was no longer worth the effort. They publicly blamed a staff member leaking stuff but that had been happening for decades in one form or another so pinch of salt. Thread here has former staff and producers posting their thoughts.