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RE: Neitherlands
@somasatori said in Neitherlands:
I also come from a WoD background and know that non-consent doesn’t invalidate fade to black, and especially doesn’t allow forcing someone to play through potentially traumatic stuff. So, with regards to “I come from WoD where you’re lucky to have staff even acknowledge you before doing what they want,” I feel like this was a pretty old perspective even 15 years ago. IMO, one thing most successful/decent staff took from places where staff acted with impunity about your character’s consent was to at least check in on certain things. Even just a heads up of, “hey this is likely a combat scene, are you cool with that?” was pretty standard on several games which were non-consent MU*s. Player side, most games had a +warn system. All you’re doing is taking the worst elements of past WoD staffing habits and bringing them into a new generation and setting.
Not only that, but someone saying "you’re lucky [this thing] is not as bad as [this thing before]’ is some of the worst type of justification tactics for abuse.
“You’re lucky I only open-hand slap you, my dad beat my mother with a bat.”
I mean, yes, extreme comparison, but that’s essentially what it is: ‘I’m not as bad as what you would have had to deal with, so don’t complain’.
Fuck that, lol.
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RE: MU Peeves Thread
Losing players and not knowing why. Like, it’d be nice to just know if it’s personal, if the game isn’t jiving, if if if if if…
Also, the MU player trauma that makes them not talk to staff. Holy shit. It is really hard to convince people you want to help them out and aren’t annoyed or mad that they misunderstood or misinterpreted a scene set or something like that. Players will 100% delete a 500-word pose to write a “standing in the background” pose just to not incur some imaginary wrath.
Some people have been treated like shit and it shows, fuck.
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RE: MU Peeves Thread
@Pacha said in MU Peeves Thread:
I have realised that from years of playing in WoD MUSHES, I am so conditioned to staff wanting to breathe down people’s necks about every little thing that I get incredibly anxious when I see other people RPing about something my character did—even something super innocent. It brings me out in hives that someone is about to send me a shitty job to tell me I am WRONG and BAD.
I think it is nice that games are a lot more chill these days, but I think it probably speaks volumes about the general state of WoD games that my most comfortable state is to be completely under the staff’s radar because staff on a WoD game paying close attention to what you’re doing is almost universally bad.
@Sillylily said in MU Peeves Thread:
@Pacha I feel this so much… (incoming rant to commiserate not detract)
I try to play ‘off the radar’ i.e, ‘As little contact with staff as possible’ with the idea staff is only there for paperwork and banning. This includes being extra careful around staff alts and their packs/coterie/club/org/cults. If they make a ruling: I accept it as if I were sitting at their GM table. Arguing doesn’t serve anything but to get me on a shit list… and that’s no fun. (I don’t want to leave and lose the quality rp I’ve found in the shit show. I’m willing to put up with a lot for good writing. )
Largely on WOD games it keeps me able to rp and I’m a lot less stressed …
It’s not the best strategy (so maladaptive) on Mu* but its definitely an effective way to exist in a online gaming setting.
Unfortunately that has screwed me on non-WOD servers…
Upside for nonWOD mush: I only rely on me for rp and it has allowed me to rp with as little help from staff as possible. I can rp without touching the plot or npcs. This is nice if not effective for getting involved in plot.
Downside: I literally avoid staff and trip all over myself to make sure I’m not bothering them if i do have to interact… this includes with staff bits and npcs or even just ooc saying ‘Hi’. This makes involvment difficult and anxiety inducing. And I get the feeling that I’ve missed interacting with some pretty awesome people.
The fucking trauma, y’all.
I talk about this with my fellow staffers/game runners alla time. I feel like I have to do triple fucking work to unweave the trauma so that I can actually RP with and tell stories with the players who come to my game.
Like, I understand where y’all are coming from but as a staffer who tries to be as chill and open and friendly as possible… lol, it’s disheartening, especially because the few people who do engage then seem to be “favored”, but no, it’s just they aren’t actively avoiding me.
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RE: Predators and Roleplaying Communities
@mietze said in Predators and Roleplaying Communities:
I do not know if this will help. But my experience with predatory people is that most of the time they don’t hone in on one/their group of targets right away, but cast a wide net. They actually don’t always go after the easiest targets but the most rewarding personally for them–which for a lot of the worst means breaking down people who say no or express discomfort. I think a lot of people like to believe that the only people who get targeted are those who have signaled something, but I don’t think that’s true, especially in what happens in our community.
Are there some that seek certain markers (like age, people who don’t shut off inappropriate communication the first time, ect)? Yes. But there are so many for whom that’s actually not a barrier and just adds to the excitement of breaking down someone who isn’t the stereotype and especially if they can get that person to fear that other people are going to see them as that stereotype and that they ‘deserved’ this sort of transgression. Those are the sick fucks and they rarely are manipulating and hurting just one person at a time, or the same type of person at a time either.
I think this is why destroying slutshaming and ‘well you shouldn’t have given that contact info’ type of shit is so important. It makes the collective us feel better to be able to feel “well, that wouldn’t be me, because I’m not 16/I don’t do discord/I draw the line with others all the time” but the truth is I think a lot of people are vulnerable to the the right manipulator. You see it all the time even outside of our community.
I think it’s also important to remember that just because they’re vile human beings doesn’t mean they’re stupid or unskilled, a lot of them are very socially apt and very smart; being a victim of them doesn’t make you stupid or easily manipulated, and believing yourself “too smart” or “too savvy” to ever be victimized by those people is a great way to find yourself a victim when they take advantage of that overconfidence.
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RE: Real Life Struggles/Support/Vent
Fuck. Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck. I fuxking hate people. I fucking hate this society. I fucking hate every molecule of every fucking piece of SHIT that has decided to torch my country to the fucking ground. Fuck
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RE: The Lost Realms Discussion
@Raeras said in The Lost Realms Discussion:
@tighearna
Genuinely curious question. I’m not extremely familiar with Hobbit/LotR lore and I know it’s not D&D soI can understand on some level why your policies say to keep romantic rp between the same species but is this primarily aimed at the physical aspect?
Or is this just across the board because it’s not thing at all in the lore? (Again, I can see other reasoning for wanting to keep things separated on the physical aspect)
This is the one at least a few people are going to deliberately flaunt in private scenes, guaranteed, lol.
It’s a problem created by the nature of a MU.
In a work of fiction, the protagonists, deuteragonists, and antagonists are, a lot of the time, people whose circumstances are somehow special. In settings in which things like cross-species reproduction is rare but possible, that’s an easy way of making a “special person”.
In a tabletop game or a small group, your characters are the protagonists of the story, so them being special is not a big deal; you can play a half-elf because, despite being vanishingly rare (which automatically makes you special) there’s a lot more control over who can and can’t be that specific version of special, as there are only about 3-6 protagonists.
MUs, unfortunately, break this by catering to a much, much larger playerbase. Suddenly, if one out of every five characters is a half-elf, then being a half-elf isn’t special because it ceases to be vanishingly rare.
Do I agree with this policy? Ehn, not really. I think once the characters hit the grid they should be able to fall in love and have the lives they choose (if they are rosters, they should probably be played by the same person for a long-enough period of time before they can do things like get pregnant or married or whatever, just to avoid people doing that and then bailing on the character).
This is especially true given that the game has a policy of one character per player, which means the pool wherein you can find someone to play a romantic storyline with is extremely limited. Even aiming high and saying that you’ve got 50 players, lets say you’re playing a Hobbit… but most people are playing Humans or Elves, there’s maybe at BEST another 9 Hobbits on the game. Let’s say your character is bisexual/biromantic, that’s 9 people – once you start eliminating through schedule, chemistry, RP preferences… yeah.
I personally would bend a little and let interspecies relationships just be more common, but that’s just my take. Clearly @tighearna has their own vision for their game, which is how it should be.
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RE: Excelsior! A Marvel Comics MU.
Much like @Jumpscare and Silent Heaven, and Clockwork and The Network, Andruid over on the blog Writing Games has put up an interview/review of Excelsior!, and we’re super stoked about it.
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RE: Ruiz Thread
Yeah. That was def Ruiz. This isn’t an opinion. I just got sources.
I’m like April O’Neil or some shit.
Edited because I’m late to the party due to unforeseen connectivity issues dammmmmmit
I’d say Ghost is showing his true colors but the dude’s always been transparent af
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RE: Macha Awareness (And Unappreciation) thread
@KarmaBum said in Macha Awareness (And Unappreciation) thread:
@Cobalt just jumping on the bandwagon.
Derp’s knee-jerk assumption was that YOU are the bad actor in this scenario, and everyone agreed - right up until you walked into the room, when suddenly they realized they weren’t just talking about someone who couldn’t defend themselves. Then Ghost and Macha did their frantic back-pedaling, and Derp of course ignored the fire he just started.
They’re not there for discussion. They have BANNED everyone who actually wants to discuss things.
Except me. Ganymede missed me the most.
Latest posts made by Coin
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RE: Numetal/Retromux
@ChaoticSin said in Numetal/Retromux:
[…] painted to make pika look bad. […]
she ain’t need the help, tbh
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RE: Numetal/Retromux
@inuki said in Numetal/Retromux:
we didn’t advertise cause we didn’t want people who were just going to talk trash. so idk why you brought us up. we were just minding our own business @catzilla
do you read context before you reply to things? asking for a friend.
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RE: MU Peeves Thread
@Prototart said in MU Peeves Thread:
@Artemis said in MU Peeves Thread:
@Prototart i could not play them if i wanted to because of this, it’s super ultra lame asf
I seriously hate it so much, like, number one it’s an opportunity to show your ability as a writer (the only times I’ve met somebody w a good desc who was just awful somebody else wrote that for them) and number two, just, that isn’t even true, this isn’t DC in 1980-whatever, there’s like zero consistency between artists? Like Illyana was drawn as a waif, a pinup, and a fitness model by different people all in the same miniseries.
I kind of fine the idea of ‘opportunity to show your ability as a writer’ to be needlessly judgy, tbh. And I do enough descing in my normal poses.; I find the exercise of sitting down and actively trying to write a description for my character that is just a description so mind-numbingly boring that I don’t bother. And that’s okay.
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RE: MU Peeves Thread posted in Rough and Rowdy
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RE: MU Peeves Thread
ohhhhh, here it comes.
i can feel it.
rearing its ugly hydra-like head.
that would-be mythical but all-too real mu-forum discussion topic…
… the dreaded …
are social stats worth having and if so is it okay to use them on other PCs?
i thought we left that one over on MSB but hell.
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RE: Tuomo, Leo, Theo (Clarion's playlist)
Leo was fun, but Liam was my fave.
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RE: Pets!
So insomniac and I decided that we wanted to adopt another cat after seeing several posts about the local animal control facility being full (with the consequences that implies) and their primary local rescue partners also being full and unable to pull any animals.
We haven’t intentionally adopted cats from rescues since 2008. Every kitty we’ve had since then has been foisted on us by the Cat Distribution System. It’s been really weird and emotional to see one of the two cats we’ve been considering get adopted and knowing the other has a meet and greet with potential adopters today.
There’s lots of other kitties available, so I know we’ll find a match and I’m happy they’re going to good homes, but I’m not accustomed to this emotional swing of getting invested in and then sad about a furbaby I’ve never met.
Earlier this year I made noises at work about maybe wanting a second cat a couple of months down the road. Late January, one of my supervisors asks me if I’m still looking because her neighbor has a cat who needs a home (tragic backstory, too lazy to recount).
I see pictures of the cat. I can’t resist. I say ‘yes, just tell the person I need a week to get things situated at home’.
Half a week goes by and I am getting pictures, have talked to the person, everything. And then out of nowhere, two days before I’m supposed to go pick up the cat, the person says that they’ve grown attached and will be keeping it.
I was devastated.
Couple weeks later I adopted Miskatonic.
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Narrator Banned Discussion Thread
@junipersky Pretty sure the username was ‘Narrator’.
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RE: MU Peeves Thread
@Tez said in MU Peeves Thread:
@Coin You’re right. Sometimes I just need to scream into the void, though. I try to give people the benefit of the doubt and tell them WE KNOW YOU ARE DOING THIS so that they can course correct, but it’s a bannable offense if they keep it up.
AND EXASPERATING. I just don’t get it.
I understand.
but also if it’s a bannable offense, imo you’re under the implicit obligation of telling them you can tell, since ‘keep it up’ suggests they’ve been warned, yah?
i mean, working from the absolute very little i have to go on based on how vague all this is.
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RE: MU Peeves Thread
@Tez said in MU Peeves Thread:
@Tez said in MU Peeves Thread:
I am begging game-runners to stop using ChatGPT.
I AM BEGGING PLAYERS TO STOP USING CHATGPT.
at this point i’m gonna hazard the suggestion of maybe telling the people in question that you can tell they’re using ChatGPT.
maybe you can privately shame them into stopping.
cuz they probably won’t just from reading this. XD