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@Gasboy said in Seven Nations is Closing(Kind Of):
@Testament Better to have tried and failed,
But is it really a failure? @Testament ran a game, had fun for awhile, made stories. Sounds like a success to me. No game lasts forever, and I wish you the best of luck in your future games.
I think my favorite part about all of this is how this person’s character couldn’t be a Mary Sue because he’s a MAN WRITTEN BY A MAN!!! or something. IDK, this is all ridiculous.
It feels weird and disingenious for game runners to have an undisclosed PC (or PCs plural, possibly) that are seemingly central to story. Like, I get on one hand that staff sometimes just want to PLAY and not have everyone climbing over themselves to play with the staff PC because they are the staff PC and they THINK they’ll get story out of it … but if your staff PC is already “the story”, why not just be clear about it?
IDK, it’s weird.
@RedJellyBean said in MU Peeves Thread:
Having a scene with someone and them not posing for days and giving various reasons, yet you know they’re RPing with someone else on another place the entire time, as well as other games.
Just say “hey it looks like you’ve been pretty busy and this scene is getting stale, let’s FTB and you can grab me again when you have more time?” And call it a day.
No sense in letting your brain weasels eat you alive.
I’ve been struggling with my current job for awhile as they did not follow through with multiple promises and my role wasn’t what I was hired for even after almost three years. The place was becoming rapidly toxic with gossiping HR ladies, constant financial woes, and some other matters that were making me concerned. But I finally resigned! My new role seems promising, it’s where I realistically should be in my career, and they seem to have their shit together. I’m really excited, and just so happy to finally be free of this place … in two weeks 
RL Peeve: they are making me stay TWO WHOLE WEEKS after resigning and are being real dicks about it. But at least it’s temporary!
@Ominous I mean, why ask the question “what about this game is different from Arx” when Arx is no longer around? Even if it is a 100% complete rip-off of Arx, the comparison doesn’t matter anymore because Arx isn’t a thing and hasn’t been a thing for a few years now.
And Arx was, for all intents and purposes, an extremely successful game for several years so people found stuff to RP about clearly lol
tbh I’m amazed at the fortitude anyone has to read Ghost’s giant long posts. I hear them referenced and I go to look because I’m curious and I usually get a couple of lines in and I’m like
“Here’s a well-spoken and well-crafted argument” … proceeds to word vomit across the board nonsensically while skirting along the “very clear” rules in order to attack - but not PERSONALLY!!! attack - people who cannot defend themselves because they are banned.
You know what it would take to repair the community? Nothing. The community isn’t broken, MSB is.
This is kinda like sad and just seems borderline uncomfortable to be talking about this person so can we just not?
I think we wear rose coloured glasses a lot of the time on MU*s that are pretty nostalgic and are waiting for that “spark” again. But I don’t think it’s the games itself? I miss the times where I played with my friends, and there’s just not a lot of places where my friends play anymore, and even if there was a game that was EXACTLY LIKE the game that I played before that I loved … I don’t think I’d stick. I’m not the same person I was even a year ago, and I just don’t have the energy or the time, and the time I do have I want to spend doing other things.
I just don’t think it has to do with the games that are available or the games that I used to play. Like there could be a carbon copy of the games I loved and everything could be the same but I am not the same anymore. If that makes sense.
I just want to say since it’s apparent that Ghost is reading that it is against the SPIRIT OF THE RULE of the new MSB to continue to personally attack the banned, particularly when they cannot respond directly to those personal attacks.
I’m glad however they found their safe place to apply the rules only to those they dislike and can continue circle jerking about how great and POSITIVE they are while shitting on everyone who cannot defend themselves.
@Faraday You weren’t paying for the MUD, not really. On AOL, you were paying for the hours you used to dial up. The games themselves were free. I believe the same thing for Gemstone on GEnie, you were paying for GEnie and not for Gemstone itself.
@kestrel you had a different experience than I did. No one ever promised me a paid position with IRE, or dangled it in front of me. I did spend a lot of money on the game but I was pretty young, stupid, and didn’t have any parental oversight. I don’t know how much money I spent, but I didn’t have a job so it couldn’t have been that much, it just felt like a lot of money for someone who didn’t really have any. I was also a God (Cassiopeia), I think on Aetolia but it might’ve been Imperian. Maybe I wasn’t a great one, I surely didn’t have a fanclub.
I’m not saying that IRE MUDs weren’t toxic or the things you are saying didn’t happen though. I dealt with a ton of toxicity as a player and was admittedly pretty toxic myself back then. I have a lot of bad memories, but a lot of good ones too. And all in all, it was 20+ years ago now and I’d like to think I grew from it. I’m not discounting your experience, just telling my own. I think the things you are expressing aren’t exclusive to IRE though.
How did that actually work, logistically, in an era before reliable online payment systems? I’ve heard of paid BBS systems, but I never gave much thought to how they got their money.
You either paid up front for a set number of hours or were billed after the fact for usage.
Yeah IRE’s “free-to-play” model was always incredibly predatory. I actually think how they treat both their “volunteers” and even paid staff might be worse. But that’s a rant for another thread and another day.
I was a volunteer on IRE! Ask me anything lol I never had an issue as a volunteer, except for other players. I also knew Matt Mihaly and some of his team. They were nice people (at least to me) and I never heard any complaints from the paid staff. But I’m sure it happened, and I’m sure that some paid staff and volunteers had bad experiences, if only because it was really the wild west era of MUDing and in general some people are terrible to other people online.
I do think the model was predatory, but I believe that about any micro-transaction sort of situation. I spent a considerable amount of money on IRE games and never got anywhere, mostly because I didn’t understand how to make triggers.
It’s funny reading this IRE History because … they get it wrong. They said AOL had a “pay to play” model and IRE was the first one to do it for free. But AOL’s model (at least in so far as a few of their games, Modus Operandi comes to mind, and I think there was a dragon-something game too) originally WAS free to play, and then they switched to pay to play and THAT was a catastrophy. I was an early adopter of Achaea and played from the very beginning; that it was free to play is a bit of a joke, since you couldn’t walk out of safe rooms without getting killed repeatedly by people who spent hundreds of dollars on credits lol
ETA: Unless of course they meant AOL’s fee, which was per hour and then went to a monthly flat. I think that was around the time that the MUDs on the platform started doing pay-to-play.
@Tez is that a game you are designing right now?
@Roz I definitely feel like everyone deserves a right to privacy and was being too overbroad. I don’t expect people to link their handles, I have played games where I don’t link my handle, and I don’t think it’s something that should be required.
I HAVE seen multiple cases of bad actors hide without handles or change their handle to hide, so that eyebrow twitch is mostly just a ugh, what if this is secretly someone I know is a bad actor?? But that generally works itself out, handle or none.
As far as staff having a handle, I prefer to play on games where I know the admin. I do think staff alts should be tagged.
Hopefully that clears things up.
@Yam I would play any damn thing @KarmaBum slapped her name on, like even if it was cardboard box: the mush
My two cents? If you don’t have a handle, you have something to hide, and my brows immediately raise. I feel that way about everyone, players or admin, but I give players way more grace because I know not everyone wants to slap their handle on right out of the gate and sometimes it’s nice to have a haven alt.
ETA: I would also play anything @tsar made so long as it’s Janitor: the MUSH. I’m still waiting @tsar
@catzilla the becoming was a Lord and Ladies steampunk game that was on Ares for awhile. The premise was great.
@catzilla said in Neon Protocol:
Double post
I just checked out the Roster list. Out of the 14 PCs available, only 5 are female and one of those 5 is an old woman that is sure not to be a threat to any potential quest to collect all the peen on the game.
This doesn’t surprise me. From the couple of people I spoke to who app’d female characters, they waited significantly longer than other people to be approved.
The staff at Neon Protocol is likely the same person that ran The Becoming. I don’t believe that is the same person as jujube/inuki/etc.
