@Gasboy said in Seven Nations is Closing(Kind Of):
@Testament Better to have tried and failed,
But is it really a failure? @Testament ran a game, had fun for awhile, made stories. Sounds like a success to me. No game lasts forever, and I wish you the best of luck in your future games.
I think my favorite part about all of this is how this person’s character couldn’t be a Mary Sue because he’s a MAN WRITTEN BY A MAN!!! or something. IDK, this is all ridiculous.
@RedJellyBean said in MU Peeves Thread:
Having a scene with someone and them not posing for days and giving various reasons, yet you know they’re RPing with someone else on another place the entire time, as well as other games.
Just say “hey it looks like you’ve been pretty busy and this scene is getting stale, let’s FTB and you can grab me again when you have more time?” And call it a day.
No sense in letting your brain weasels eat you alive.
@Ominous I mean, why ask the question “what about this game is different from Arx” when Arx is no longer around? Even if it is a 100% complete rip-off of Arx, the comparison doesn’t matter anymore because Arx isn’t a thing and hasn’t been a thing for a few years now.
And Arx was, for all intents and purposes, an extremely successful game for several years so people found stuff to RP about clearly lol
tbh I’m amazed at the fortitude anyone has to read Ghost’s giant long posts. I hear them referenced and I go to look because I’m curious and I usually get a couple of lines in and I’m like
“Here’s a well-spoken and well-crafted argument” … proceeds to word vomit across the board nonsensically while skirting along the “very clear” rules in order to attack - but not PERSONALLY!!! attack - people who cannot defend themselves because they are banned.
You know what it would take to repair the community? Nothing. The community isn’t broken, MSB is.
This is kinda like sad and just seems borderline uncomfortable to be talking about this person so can we just not?
I just want to say since it’s apparent that Ghost is reading that it is against the SPIRIT OF THE RULE of the new MSB to continue to personally attack the banned, particularly when they cannot respond directly to those personal attacks.
I’m glad however they found their safe place to apply the rules only to those they dislike and can continue circle jerking about how great and POSITIVE they are while shitting on everyone who cannot defend themselves.
So since this is the second time in extremely recent MSB history that I’ve been either @tted at (despite being banned) or had my quote from here used as an example for how awful BMD is, I’d like to ask:
Derp, how did I hurt you? Is it because I am a woman with opinions, or is it because I called you a misogynist, or is it because of something else? I’d love to know! Pls respond on MSB, xoxoxoxo love me
@crawfish i had to take a shower after reading that, thx
My advice? Teach people how you want to RP with them. A lot of us have a strong tendancy to match the person we are writing with, but sometimes we need to give ourselves a little grace. If someone throws out novel-length poses and you only have a paragraph or two in you? Give them that. They will either a) start mimicing your shorter pose length or b) keep going!
If someone doesn’t want to Rp with you because of your pose length, they aren’t worth RPing with anyway.
@Jumpscare That has nothing to do with these people playing pacifists. It sounds like you have some jerk players. But there are jerk pacifists and there are jerk combatants and there are jerk everythings. It’s not a pacifist thing.
@Jumpscare Makes sense, thanks. I think you should’ve included that detail in your scenario above to paint a clearer picture of what was happening.
But idk man. At the end of the day, people aren’t assholes for using in-game mechanics to create a story, so if it had ended like Jumpscare initially said it did? I don’t see the issue. The issue is when people take it way too far, cross a line, and act like dicks because they can’t take the L and move the fuck on.
@Jumpscare said in Non-toxic PvP:
MacGuffin Holder: It’s time for me to bring the MacGuffin to the danger pit.
Problematic Pacifist: That’s a bad idea. You should take it to the safety pit where my faction wants it to be.
MH: I’ve been vocal about my plans to do this for the past week.
PP: And my protests have gone ignored.
I think this is the real issue, and I honestly do not understand why you would ban PP in this situation. You have two characters who are fundamentally opposed about something, MH is hoarding the item and soley determining where it goes, PP offered an alternative and was ignored. It resulted in IC conflict. The fact that PP stood there and took it, and then snarked about it afterward, is IC. Unless there was bleed and MH was being harassed OOC? There shouldn’t have been a banning.
But also, why can’t there be a conflict? Why can’t two people disagree about what to do about a thing? Would this have been better had PP fought MH? Why did this result in an OOC banning, when it was an IC conflict, and story was created? Why did MH run to staff and win after ignoring PP entirely in the first place? Imma be honest, this story paints MH in a worse light than PP.
I think we’ve maybe gotten way too gunshy as a community. I’ve seen far too many games recently where any sort of conflict over the plot, no matter how small, results in immediate shutdown, both ICly and OOCly. Usually the vocal majority wins, and the one or two people who disagree or want to go at the plot another way either a) get ignored AT BEST, or b) don’t want to ‘rock the boat’ so they don’t say anything at all. That isn’t really about PvP - I don’t play on PvP games so my experiences are entirely on PvE - it’s just about how we treat conflict overall.
What does “100% OOC transparency” look like in this kind of game?
I never found places useful. It doesn’t add anything to the scene. It always sort of seemed like in games with places code, it was just the place to go to talk shit privately in a public event or finger each other or something lol.
In Ares, I really find places to be distracting and I haven’t seen it used in any meaningful way.
@hellfrog It seemed like a broader issue, like there’s something fundamental about async scenes as a whole vs a few people who don’t respect their time, though? Like I read that as saying “async scenes usually aren’t about people who need it due to timezone or availability conflicts anymore” and it seems really odd to say “async scenes usually are about people who don’t respect my time or have any interest/engagement in what I’m playing”.
But I’ll admit my reading comprehension could use some work.
@Third-Eye said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:
I’m perfectly willing to do time-shifted scenes due to timezone or availability conflicts and always have been. That isn’t usually what this is about anymore.
I’m confused. What is it usually about now?
@hellfrog said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:
view of claims that specific choices are correct and protected due to having jobs and lives
No one is doing that here. I think everyone in this thread has said that any and all play style is valid.
@Trashcan I would think that data is skewed because the play screen defaults to traditional pacing and people may or may not make a selection there when starting the scene. I think a more reliable source of data would be the avg time between when the scene opened and closed, or when the scene was opened and shared, to determine true pacing.
