@Pavel said in Banning Bad, Actually?:

So we’ll have this conversation. Forever

I mean you could say that about every conversation we have on this forum, pretty sure we just go around in circles.

@Pavel I mean isn’t that just “don’t be a dick”?

Come on people, don’t be a dick. It really isn’t that difficult lol

@Ominous said in Banning Bad, Actually?:

For those who are on the side of ban early and ban often, might I suggest running private, whitelist server for just your friends? Or maybe have a rigorous review process requiring an interview between staff and an applicant before they can CG?

respectfully, no. The amount of time it would take to “rigorously review” applicants sounds like work, and there are plenty of good people out there that want to play games. If there’s trash in the pile, I’ll just throw it out. But I am upfront about my stance and no one has to play with me if they don’t like it.

Besides, more often than not, the real trash that needs to get shown the door doesn’t show themselves as trash until they’ve wiggled into their skin well enough and ‘established’ themselves so you feel obligated to keep them around.

@Pyrephox you’ve gone mad with power, I called it

@Yam we don’t ban enough. Coming off a recent game where I had vibes that another player was a notorious creeper and was doing Weird Shit that maybe wasn’t “bannable” per policy but definitely would’ve gotten them booted if it was my game, I think we should ban liberally and often.

@KDraygo I’m probably being a little pedantic on the word usage here, because to me it just sounds like you have the authority to control someone. IMO the ability to decide you can’t play here is not the ability to control someone, it’s just making rules for their space.

Plus I mean to be honest saying a game admin has power over the players inevitably puts the game runner in a position that not a lot of us want to be in. Fuck when I ran Gray Harbor, I hope people didn’t think I had power over them, I barely had power over my own story lol

@Roadspike said in Empire Discussion Thread:

Anyone in a position of power (and staffing a game, or a forum, is that) has some measure of power over those who partake of whatever gives them that power.

I think you are wrong, and it’s going to be an ‘agree to disagree’ thing here for me. An admin or staffer may have authority over the game, but they do not have power over a person playing it.

@Ominous said in Empire Discussion Thread:

If Pyre were to ban me right now, it would have a negative effect on me.

Respectfully, this is you perceiving Pyre’s power and giving them a great deal of power over you, vs them actually having power over you.

If Pyre banned you right now for doing absolutely nothing except responding to a post, there would undoubtedly be backlash and it probably wouldn’t hold (although half of us would say you deserved it, then another half would say Pyre’s power-tripping, and there’d be a ton of back and forth about the perception of your tone and what you SHOULD have said vs what you DID say along with a disseration-level deep dive on what you implied with your perceived tone like we are literary scholars … sound familiar?)

@Ominous said in Empire Discussion Thread:

one clearly has power over the other

No they don’t. Let’s not be super ridiculous here. That’d be like saying Pyre has power over us because they are mods of the forum

And while we’re on the topic of being super ridiculous, we’re going off a log that was clearly copy-pasted instead of screen shotted so we have no idea what happened. Literally everything could be editted.

I usually don’t play comic book games as a rule but a MU* set in the Dispatch universe would be fun.

@Warma-Sheen I don’t remember why I’ve marked you as a problem person (I think it had to do with you complaining about staff interaction with LA2043, wherein you were being a huge dick), but I chock this up to it being a You problem.

I have nothing more to say than that. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

This is pretty neat and looks awesome, are you going to add it as a plugin? I’d love to see a Fallout game someday.

@Ominous I mean, why ask the question “what about this game is different from Arx” when Arx is no longer around? Even if it is a 100% complete rip-off of Arx, the comparison doesn’t matter anymore because Arx isn’t a thing and hasn’t been a thing for a few years now.

And Arx was, for all intents and purposes, an extremely successful game for several years so people found stuff to RP about clearly lol

@Superbia thank you for clarifying!

Any truth to the rumor that Inkling is Tek? Asking for a friend.

I’d love to do some kind of modified Kids on Bikes system with Ares but I wouldn’t have a clue on how to set that up. I think FS3 is easiest because it gives you a clean sheet and you can get going right away, which is why most games use it. It is a square peg / round hole situation but I’d rather that than no games.

@Ashkuri pretty sure they spun this off from a TT / discord game which isn’t bad but the help files really need cleaning up.

@somasatori sounds like a lot of work

@Ominous I tooled around with a Delta Green concept MUSH for precisely half a minute, mostly couldn’t figure out a centralized location where everyone would interact with one another since (I think) the whole idea is that you have a Normal Life until you are called in to Do Stuff and then you go back to your Normal Life? And I didn’t want to run a town mush.

All I really want btw is the ability to ride my horse, wear a cowboy hat, and rob trains/stagecoaches and maybe fight monsters. I’d like to be a bad guy, and not a bad guy that’s really a good guy and all the bad guys are actually good and it’s only the NPCs that are actually bad!! I just want to be bad. Let me be a bad guy. Thanks.