@thrax said in Numetal/Retromux:
When Staff came to speak to her she did not hide, nor keep information from them. The thing I wonder is how can they ban someone for avoiding conflict from someone known to be a problem. Yes she did hide herself, but is that in itsself worth a full gameban?
Hiding yourself from players you have a no contact with in order to RP with them is something I think deserves a gameban, regardless of how open you are with staff.
It really feels like Ganymede has just decided to let Derp drive it into the ground out of some need to avoid losing face from reversing a decision.
Well, I’m reducing my MSB activity to lurking now. Gany just basically said that the only person who needed to be apologized to on MSB for what happened was Derp.
I get two things from reading stuff from this thread.
That I definitely am not the target audience for Lords & Ladies roleplay.
That Arx, even with all of it’s trouble throughout its history, is a pretty good example of ‘doing it right’ in our hobby.
Congrats to all you Arx players and staff for doing cool stuff.
@Cygnus said in The 3-Month Players:
Without PVP acting as a failsafe, these players often cause games to fail because no one can stand not being able to meaningfully stand up to the bully.
The failsafe against toxic players should be staff action. Going PVP just because a player is toxic seems toxic in it’s own right.
Starting a new thread, for a new year.
First up, and this one hit me hard, David Lynch, legendary director of such weirdness as Eraserhead, Twin Peaks, and the original 1980s version of Dune.
Please stop. If you actually care, stop, step away, and come back in a few days or even a week or two. You’re making yourself look bad with each new post.
@RedRocket said in pvp vs pvp:
The objections to ICA=ICC always seem to be that a hypothetical psychopathic player will just go out killing everyone for OOC reasons and ruin the game anyway, so they might as well abandon the game before it happens.
I have no objections to ICA=ICC and I have both played with and had the misfortune of having to deal with psychopaths who PVP for purely OOC reasons as staff.
I too remember some of those games having epic battles and stuff, and I also remember games where getting asked for “RP” from certain characters meant a pvp combat scene. In a few rare cases, those players managed to single out completely new players with completely new characters.
Your experience is not my experience, and neither of our experiences are invalid in this particular conversation. Everybody has their own thoughts on the topic and there’s probably not a single sweet spot of PVE / PVP balance that covers everyone in the hobby.
@RedRocket said in pvp vs pvp:
My original statement still holds true, your way is always going to lead to a game withering away. Putting everyone on the same team means staff takes on the burden of being everyone else in the world. It consolidates the responsibility of creating the content most games are designed around (fighting) to a few already overwhelmed staff members.
That sounds like a you problem.
@Faraday Totally. I feel like there’s just as many groups building AI models trained solely on academic works and scientific knowledge, but those groups aren’t getting any sort of news coverage because it’s not as controversial.
This is an example of what I am hopeful AI will eventually do, which is help push scientific discovery forward.
the heat-death of the universe will render this all moot
If we don’t correct the current climate issues, it will be rendered moot by around 2100 AD.
@dvoraen said in pvp vs pvp:
I’m getting this sense of deja-vu that I can’t really pinpoint.
It feels very much like that “OT The Real” guy finally decided to tone it down to a level that won’t get him snap banned.
@RedRocket said in pvp vs pvp:
Is there some thriving hub of young people out there playing some game I’ve never heard of?
Yes, many times over. Even in MUs.
@RedRocket said in pvp vs pvp:
I watched these games that I loved go down the toilet because staff chose to coddle a few troublemakers and change the rules so that they would whine less.
I’ve watched games I loved go down the toilet because staff coddled people like you. So we’re all in the same boat.
@Pax said in pvp vs pvp:
Maybe try pickleball.
I was going to suggest GTA RP servers. Those are rife with people just randomly whacking each other.
@RedRocket said in pvp vs pvp:
My original statement still holds true, your way is always going to lead to a game withering away. Putting everyone on the same team means staff takes on the burden of being everyone else in the world. It consolidates the responsibility of creating the content most games are designed around (fighting) to a few already overwhelmed staff members.
That sounds like a you problem.
@RedRocket said in pvp vs pvp:
MUSHes promise a world of darkness but deliver a world of boredom.
Well, this also explains a lot of your thinking.
MUSH (a code base for online text-based roleplaying) does not equal World of Darkness (a popular TTRPG & LARP setting involving creatures of supernatural origin in varying levels of conflict with each other.)
Plenty of MUSHes are set in settings that aren’t Dark or Grim or anything like that. Hell, one of the most popular MUSHes I can think of in recent years is Arx, and as far as I can tell (Arx players help me if I’m getting it wrong) it’s a Lords & Ladies game that was set in a high fantasy world, and while there was some darkness and nasty bits, they weren’t the regular thing in the game.
