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@Yam said in Age Verification & Games:
I find it concerning that they default to… handling actual IDs for pretendy funtime
Of course they are. Because it’s not about it being pretendy funtime, it’s about them very likely believing that they have a legal, moral, and/or ethical requirement to ensure their participants are adults.
@KarmaBum said in Age Verification & Games:
He’s aware of MUSHing, has seen me do it, has even chatted with me and brainstormed a few times, but he’s not going to join a hobby full of middle-aged women pretending to be sexy vampires.
the contempt is dripping off your words
While I think our janky reliance on telnet is definitely a barrier to entry, my take is just that young people aren’t joining 'cause this just isn’t fun. If you were a young person, would YOU find any of this interesting or fun? Even those of us in the hobby lament that there’s shit-all for fun new games right now.
if the hobby weren’t at all fun for anyone, it would just die. it’s not dead. because people keep having fun
i think the biggest barrier to MU*s in terms of younger generation is just ignorance. they don’t know it’s around as a medium
@Faraday said in Age Verification & Games:
@Juniper said in Age Verification & Games:
TBH I’m not worried about minors infesting my spaces because they’re not interested in the level of effort that is required to get invested in this stuff
I don’t think that’s true at all. My oldest plays on discord with a bunch of other teens. They are aware of MUSHing; have helped me playtest a few things on Ares. They write fanfiction. My youngest likes Dwarf Fortress and clunky RPGs grafted onto Starcraft, neither of which is that far afield from MUDs.
Agreed. Saying NO kids/teens are interested in MUSHing (or insert other old school thing here) because it’s old/outdated is like saying no kids/teens were interested in D&D in the early 2000s because it was old/outdated back then.
Plenty of minors and young adults like old school things. Are they the majority? Certainly not, but they’re out there. 
Counterpoint: there are young people finding MUs for the first time even now and it has been an absolute fucking JOY watching them dive in and enjoy the fuck out of everything. They +comp for logs that they’ve read that don’t even mention them. Yes, even straight up just social RP.
Restorative of the soul.
@KarmaBum said in Age Verification & Games:
If you were a young person, would YOU find any of this interesting or fun?
I mean yeah probably, I did when I was a young person
16+ is baffling from a liability perspective. 16-18 protects you from nothing. What?
My updated wishlist:
I have been exposed to the expectations of identification in Discord RP yes, and that pretty much put an end to my interest. That level of paranoia coupled with disregard for privacy gives me the impression that these communities in themselves are run by a younger generation. I’m a thirty something year old woman. I’m not linking my hobbies to my real-world career so a bunch of anxious barely 18-year olds can be sure there’s no 16 year olds in their playhouse. I’m good, thanks.
TBH I’m not worried about minors infesting my spaces because they’re not interested in the level of effort that is required to get invested in this stuff (anymore. Thanks iPad dads). Not to mention most adults don’t meet my standards for literacy, let alone some undercover minor. I won’t find out someone I was hanging out with is a kid. It’s just not gonna happen.
There comes a time when one has to draw a line in the sand, and I am not giving some corporation my fucking driver’s licence so I can be let out of the kiddie fence. I’ll just go somewhere else.
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@Livia said in MU* Wishlists:
Well that’s suspicious.
But I’ll take this opportunity to pine for Vampire the Requiem once again. All the WoD games have returned to 20th Anniv. edition of everything.
People are too invested in THE METAPLOT… which also sort of happened with Requiem/nWoD. ‘I am part of this bloodline, let me name-drop the person from the book instead of seeing if we should alter stuff for game setting’.
Which, I mean, fair. I still think that the ideal WoD game should build out a wiki of the world as players submit new characters. If the game is in New York City, staff obviously have NYC history in mind. But do they know who is in charge in Philadelphia? The first character submitted from that area gets to canonize the lore from there, and then it gets integrated. Second player now has to deal with Philly being Carthian (because who else would riot in both celebration AND defeat?)
That, or somehow be on LegallyDistinctEarthlikeLocation, as written in Trans-Ally Katherine Applegate’s second-greatest work, Everworld.
Everyone is running 20th edition and ignoring V5’s metaplot entirely so I’m not convinced about anything to do with the metplot, harrumph harrumph.
I more mean, everyone is Very Invested in Brujah not being a bloodline of the Gangrel Clan and etc and so on. For more examples, see all the arguments from when oWoD was taken out behind the chemical shed and shot / when nWoD first came out.
I just wannt play some Chronicles of Darkness, preferably Requiem but honestly I’d play any of 'em.
As long as we remember to include Mummy!
