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@Jenn said in MU Peeves Thread:
No one is forcing you to take the OOC offer. But at least they’re trying to be inclusive. And without inclusivity, a game dies fast.
Totally, which is why this is probably just a me thing. I love people being inclusive, but everybody has their own social quirks and habits and stuff that have to be worked around, and I think one of mine is “Please don’t try to throw plot at me until I feel I’ve established my character.”
@bear_necessities said in MU Peeves Thread:
It feels weird and disingenious for game runners to have an undisclosed PC (or PCs plural, possibly) that are seemingly central to story. Like, I get on one hand that staff sometimes just want to PLAY and not have everyone climbing over themselves to play with the staff PC because they are the staff PC and they THINK they’ll get story out of it … but if your staff PC is already “the story”, why not just be clear about it?
IDK, it’s weird.
Some of them have two 
@MisterBoring said in MU Peeves Thread:
@bear_necessities said in MU Peeves Thread:
IDK how to explain it better, I just feel like staff should be upfront about who their PCs are.
I agree with this. I also believe that staff should not include their PCs in the scenes they are running. In my experience it often leads to Mary Sue / Gary Stu behavior.
At the VERY MOST, I could see them using their PC like, ‘hey I found this spooky rock, can you guys go investigate it?’
But then again, a NPC could do that as well.
yeah, especially if the game setting is such that there can be a lot of ICly cycling in and out, people can get tired of doing intro type scenes all the time. but it’s good that folks are still trying to loop new PCs into plots.
So, without knowing who/what on the details here, it’s just a guess on stuff. But like… Personally, I’d rather see that happen on a game than the other way around. It’s super easy to say “No thanks, I’d rather not engage in this plot, it’s a bad fit.” Or maybe, “Thanks for thinking of me, but I’d rather wait and encounter it IC’ly.”
But like, I know I sent out a really wide-ranging page to a lot of folks on the game that was OOC, but with and invitation for it to be IC if wanted, but also without an obligation for it to be.
Because my character got a recording of something that to my awareness, none of the other PCs have access to yet. And I’m also aware that I’m not everyone’s cup of tea and there are people who would rather not play/scene/type with me. And that’s a super fair and legit choice that shouldn’t cut anyone out of plot or stories.
So I mentioned places I’d leave copies of my recording that they can pick up and run with on their own, without me, and with the people they want to hang with. Because plot should be open to everyone. And I’m just pasting in anyone on the job who wants to run with it so that they can. I’m up to RP about it with people who want to, but like…
Personally, to me? I think a game culture that makes it easy for people to opt into plot without forcing them into encounters with people they want to avoid is the higher priority than either being uncomfortable by having to have a scene with someone you don’t like, or being left out of a plot that your character would fully invest with.
No one is forcing you to take the OOC offer. But at least they’re trying to be inclusive. And without inclusivity, a game dies fast.
@Roz said in MU Peeves Thread:
has the PC always been around ICly? because i feel like that’s an important point. if the PC literally just moved to the place or something, then wouldn’t they just respond accordingly IC that they just got there?
In this particular case, no, the PC has just moved to the area in the last week and has only met 3 other people who are also unconnected to the specific plot. And the requests to have the PC join the plot have all been OOC.
@MisterBoring said in MU Peeves Thread:
Possibly a new peeve of mine (I’m still mulling it over and trying to decide whether it irritates me or not):
When a player is trying to do certain scenes to help them establish a new character and get used to playing that character and speaking in that voice, but others are trying to handwave that stuff and just operate as though the character has always been around and has in depth IC knowledge of current events with no actual scenes to back that up.
has the PC always been around ICly? because i feel like that’s an important point. if the PC literally just moved to the place or something, then wouldn’t they just respond accordingly IC that they just got there?
but if they’ve been in the place ICly off-cam, then it makes sense for other PCs to treat them that way.
@pixiedustflyer yeah. In full disclosure because I believe in naming when I shame, I’m talking about Neon Protocol (be kind rewind?).
That being said I think staff should play their own games. I even think staff should have their PCs in scenes they run, because a lot of times you as staff are the only person running story anyway. It’s the non disclosure and subterfuge that is bothersome.
@bear_necessities said in MU Peeves Thread:
IDK how to explain it better, I just feel like staff should be upfront about who their PCs are.
I agree with this. I also believe that staff should not include their PCs in the scenes they are running. In my experience it often leads to Mary Sue / Gary Stu behavior.
@bear_necessities Got it, sorry
Agreed this is not very good optics for the staff
