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[Pavel]

@Apos said in Comic Games Are Still Fun!:

And frankly, MUs aren’t exactly great places to have calm, reasonable dialogues with strangers about that kind of thing.

Honestly, I think this is more the point that most staff/admin/whatever think about. At least in my experience. “I don’t want to deal with this, so we won’t be having conversations about it here thanks bye.”

[Coin]

@Pavel said in Comic Games Are Still Fun!:

@Apos said in Comic Games Are Still Fun!:

And frankly, MUs aren’t exactly great places to have calm, reasonable dialogues with strangers about that kind of thing.

Honestly, I think this is more the point that most staff/admin/whatever think about. At least in my experience. “I don’t want to deal with this, so we won’t be having conversations about it here thanks bye.”

like i said. “is it worth the headache?”

[Pavel]

@Coin said in Comic Games Are Still Fun!:

@Pavel said in Comic Games Are Still Fun!:

@Apos said in Comic Games Are Still Fun!:

And frankly, MUs aren’t exactly great places to have calm, reasonable dialogues with strangers about that kind of thing.

Honestly, I think this is more the point that most staff/admin/whatever think about. At least in my experience. “I don’t want to deal with this, so we won’t be having conversations about it here thanks bye.”

like i said. “is it worth the headache?”

Of course then you do get cases where one has to decide how to balance the conversational needs of insert minority group or situation here vs your headache, etc.

[Coin]

@Pavel said in Comic Games Are Still Fun!:

@Coin said in Comic Games Are Still Fun!:

@Pavel said in Comic Games Are Still Fun!:

@Apos said in Comic Games Are Still Fun!:

And frankly, MUs aren’t exactly great places to have calm, reasonable dialogues with strangers about that kind of thing.

Honestly, I think this is more the point that most staff/admin/whatever think about. At least in my experience. “I don’t want to deal with this, so we won’t be having conversations about it here thanks bye.”

like i said. “is it worth the headache?”

Of course then you do get cases where one has to decide how to balance the conversational needs of insert minority group or situation here vs your headache, etc.

yeah. that’s where the ‘worth’ part of the statement comes into play.

[Pyrephox]

Just a gentle reminder to everyone that while the discussion about a fight over political discussions on another game is fine, we’d rather not see it become a way for people to have a political discussion by proxy here. People have been good about this so far, it’s not a ding on anyone, but just keep it in mind since things tend to drift the longer a discussion goes on.

On the other hand, fight over Lex Luthor’s presidential policies all you want.

[Prototart]

tbqh only supporters of the science of Marxism-Leninism should be allowed on MU*s

[renaveleigh]

I mean, listen, we can debate the merits of where precisely the lines should be drawn in specific real or hypothetical situations like this one all day. That’s fine and fair.

But divorced from all of that, my gut feeling is that Rogue is some kind of weirdo chud or consciously covering for the feelings of one, so while I’m happy to not get wildly political in public, I am also never not going to find it funny that her knee-jerk reaction was to clutch her pearls over the very controversial statement that Alex Jones Is Bad, Actually.

I’ll also note that there are players who have cart blanche to whine about how sensitive people are nowadays, and how there are too many genders, and pronouns are hard - all of which feel like more inherently political dog whistles and/or statements than acknowledging that a lying scam artist is a lying scam artist - so while I do appreciate the value of not talking about certain subjects because they can cause friction, it’d be nice if that standard was applied more evenly.

[Roz]

@renaveleigh said in Comic Games Are Still Fun!:

But divorced from all of that, my gut feeling is that Rogue is some kind of weirdo chud or consciously covering for the feelings of one, so while I’m happy to not get wildly political in public, I am also never not going to find it funny that her knee-jerk reaction was to clutch her pearls over the very controversial statement that Alex Jones Is Bad, Actually.

From an outside perspective entirely divorced from any behavioral patterns here, this specific conversation pasted doesn’t look like someone clutching their pearls, it looks like someone asking for a subject change and getting guff about it. Like, in this specific instance, she looks like the reasonable one, not the people snarking about it.

All that said, my jumping into this conversation was literally only about finding it strange that people would not consider this a political topic, but I’ve never met a minor disagreement I couldn’t talk about at length. (This is probably not my best trait.) But I also don’t have the other logs anymore.

To be clear, I do remember the drama around this person from back in the MSB days of the preceding game this one came from? And I absolutely believe they’re not someone I’d want to play with or be on a game they’d staff on. Just to make that part clear!

I’ll also note that there are players who have cart blanche to whine about how sensitive people are nowadays, and how there are too many genders, and pronouns are hard - all of which feel like more inherently political dog whistles and/or statements than acknowledging that a lying scam artist is a lying scam artist - so while I do appreciate the value of not talking about certain subjects because they can cause friction, it’d be nice if that standard was applied more evenly.

That is absolutely really shitty. That sort of thing definitely wouldn’t fly in numerous other places with similar “let’s avoid political conversation” policies. I’m confident that the mods here would shut it down, for instance, and I’d have no interest in entertaining it on the one game I’m staffing on (nor would any of the other staffers).

[renaveleigh]

@Roz She isn’t staff, at least, so that’s something.

[SolarFlare]

…Slightly off topic discussed but on topic for the title… Anyone actually have recommendations for non-roster-locked comic MUs? So I can hopefully stop making myself depressed reading old logs and missing the shenanigans I used to get up to.

[Prototart]

so total shocker, Scott and Ruby reacted to these posts the way that like anyone who had to deal w them at literally any point as players or staffers would expect:

trying to figure out who posts under what name, smearing them to anybody who’ll listen, probably agitating to get ppl banned, and from what i’ve heard getting super paranoid about who i could be there

to keep some rando from getting sacrificed on the altar of their personality disorders, the last time i logged in to HAM except as a guest was when i claimed raven then got kicked off for a combination of making Chaucer mad and outing a sexual predator years ago, and the last time i logged in as a guest is in this thread

believe it or not it’s just that basically nobody likes either of you or enjoys tiptoeing around your explosive tempers and fragile egos, so shit gets around