Suspected Superhero Creeping Or Something
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From our sister site MSB (
), specifically Runescryer:Oh, look. Itās this jerk againā¦
No, not me; Iām an entirely different jerk. But I digressā¦
Looks like everyoneās favorite creeper might be back among us after a nice absence. No character names, since receipts are still being collected, and not naming the game while they do their own ongoing investigation.
Just a heads up that several people reviewing logs are having deja vu all over again and noticing behaviors and patterns matching DWOPPās MO.
Love bombing and constant spending of āfake IC moneyā to be the most perfect dream come true guy ever. Paying for cars, clothing, college tuition
Super protective of his target females around other males. Willing to fight or create dissent to push other males away
Gaslights female players who dislike his IC advances as problematic IC and OOC
Again, not sharing character names yet and giving the game staff a chance to work things out internally. Think of this as the smoke detector going off; time to be aware and see if there is a fire.So, a general heads up to the community and to Staffers to be aware on their own games of a possible DWOPP return.
[Snackness hereā¦I would add āweird obsession with impregnating your characterā as another warning sign.]
Mod Edit by @Pavel, changing title from DWOPP-spotting. -
His biggest tells:
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Public meltdowns, flouncing from public chat
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Relationship-trapping/isolating/wanting to impregnate female PCs
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Often overstated about his life, but with varying details. Sometimes he has teenagers, and he will offer drama about them as excuses for him disappearing. Often claims to be a disabled vet.
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Disappears from scenes without a word when he gets bored and then will come at you days later with a dramatic story and expect you to comfort him
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He is very good at making women feel comfortable, ironically. Heās a good listener, or at least pretends to be, and is very good at developing ooc rapport. Thatās what makes him so insidious.
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Could he pay for my college tuition if I make a hot enough female character?
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Question: Have you alerted staff on the game in question?
Any pronouns. Come to Chincoteague. We have ponies. http://keys.aresmush.com
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@Pavel I have student loan debt and am willing to be a virtual sugar baby so let me know if this works.
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@L-B-Heuschkel said in DWOPP-spotting:
Question: Have you alerted staff on the game in question?
This is a cross-post from MSB, @Snackness isnāt the original poster so youād have to ask over there for more details on this particular case.
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@Pavel Ah, sorry. Appreciate the heads up anyhow. This guy is somebody no one needs on their game.
Any pronouns. Come to Chincoteague. We have ponies. http://keys.aresmush.com
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@L-B-Heuschkel Yeah, Iām just the signal booster. The thread is public on MSB if you want to ask on there. I canāt because Iām banned
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@Snackness It might help if you put the copied post portion in a quote thing?
Like this
For clarity.
If you just copy it and start with one > and then paste itāll fill in the > symbols for subsequent paragraphs.
she/her | playlist
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@Roz Oh good, I was trying to figure out how to do that.
And it is done!
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Hello.
First, thanks to @Snackness for helping spread the word.
To answer @L-B-Heuschkel; yes. Staff on the game in question have been made aware and are conducting their own investigation.
I know that the ātrust the processā line isnāt going to be all that comforting to a lot of people in light of everything thatās happened, but Iām giving the game a fair chance to work their process as well as the player in question a fair chance without smearing them with the DWOPP label. Receipts are being gathered and analyzed, and will be presented when thereās harder evidence than āI got a bad feeling hereā¦ā All there are at the moment are behavioral patterns that match. Could be DWOPP, could be some other/new toxic player. Theno and I had a conversation on MUHaven last night with a newer MUSHer who liked the idea of a completely āno-holds barredā game and didnāt see anything wrong in emotional manipulation of players. No accusations, just that IMO, the hobby tends to attract players of all sorts, good and bad.
Like I said in the post, this is just the smoke alarm going off. There could be a fire, there might not be. I just think itās better for Staff and Players to be aware that DWOPP, or someone like them, might be back active again.
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@Runescryer Even if itās not that creepy fuckface, it sounds like itās a creepy fuckface and either way, needs dealing with.
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@eye8urcake said in DWOPP-spotting:
@Runescryer Even if itās not that creepy fuckface, it sounds like itās a creepy fuckface and either way, needs dealing with.
I think this is the more important point to focus on than actually finding DWOPP. Instead of trying to find out if a player is DWOPP, staff should be focused on verifying if a player has those tendencies and qualities, and taking action. It doesnāt matter if that person is DWOPP or not and they donāt have to fit the bill perfectly. There should be a line where when enough boxes are checked, they should be shown the exit.
DWOPP just fits the type of player that should not be welcomed in any game.
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Thereās some A+ level flouncing from the dude in question on the MSB thread.
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Did some snooping.
The player banned was Lithium@MSB. Def not DWOPP or anything close to it. Asked around, too, and apparently the people he had issue with, one of them is the headstaffer for Elseverse (who actually DOES have DWOPP tendencies in how he tries to gaslight, manipulate, and love-bomb people) and Macha@MSB, whoā¦ well, itās Macha.
Shady AF, if you ask me.
But the point is, maybe instead of crying wolf to the four winds, next time make sure the behavior is actually happening, too, because by all accounts, it wasnāt.
In Occam I trust.
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@Coin Uh, the Elseverse headwiz is nothing like youāre making him out to be.
Also glass houses and all.
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@foksthery said in DWOPP-spotting:
@Coin Uh, the Elseverse headwiz is nothing like youāre making him out to be.
Also glass houses and all.
Glass houses?
What exactly do you mean, pray tell. Are you insinuating Iām a gaslighting manipulator who guilt trips and love-bombs people?
If youāre gonna say it, say it.
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@Coin Everything Iāve ever seen and heard about and from you paints the picture of a petty, abusive narcissist edgelord.
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@foksthery said in DWOPP-spotting:
@Coin Everything Iāve ever seen and heard about and from you paints the picture of a petty, abusive narcissist edgelord.
Oh yeah?
From whom? Or is it again, just hearsay? Lord forbid I not get along with everyone. But hey, you have stories right? Youāve been given details?
Tell everyone how nasty I am.
