Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo
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i have to admit i find having a ‘poses accidental panty flashing often’ as an rp quirk to fall way below the shit reported here about Cujo. care to comment on the Cujo stuff instead, @Trashcan?
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@Meg
I played Tarion Tavers and Kylo Ren on this game, among a few others. I am the Trashcan previously mentioned in this thread as momentarily having been put on staff. I am one of the people who protested Hadrix being made staff in the same elevation as I and a few others were, which was done without asking us if we actually wanted to be on staff. I stepped down from the staff bit I didn’t ask for, and was banned from all of my bits while I was away on vacation. I’m not sure on the exact timing of when I was banned vs when I resigned but they were all in there together.I’m not sure what else you’re asking other than if I also condemn Cujo’s behavior and of course I do. That’s why I quit the game.
Here’s me resigning:
If that doesn’t answer your question, please let me know.
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This is part of the larger issue here. There was a pervasive culture of behavior like that on the game. That “rp quirk” was symptom of sex pestery and unwanted, continued harassment that cujo let go on far too long because that was the culture of the game and he couldn’t be bothered. This player was a continued issue for the unwanted “powder blues” - among other behaviors - but had they been popular or one of cujos golden children they’d probably still be on that game. If the poster and the player are the same person then it’s rich that they would come in here to air grievances when they themselves ARE a grievance.
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@Trashcan nice, that does answer my question. thank you.
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@Meg The panty flashing was pervasive, constant, made people uncomfortable, was never relevant to and derailed scenes, was complained about routinely, and whether or not it rises to the level of other complaints it was unwanted, voiced to be unwanted, yet never stopped. I was in several scenes where this player lost their pants where the scene immediately died. It was notorious behavior in that this player had a reputation for it. Bringing your kinks to the public-facing grid is not usually healthy, and it contributes to the sort of community rot that makes the writing experience less fun for those not into it.
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@SpilledBeanz sorry, i have to admit i am probably not the target audience to get worked up about this. sorry that happened to you and all, but it just sounds silly to me, and that may be because i am-- 4 years out from any RP?
but when you have a culture of rot, then is more rot really contributing to it when it starts at the top?
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@Meg said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
but when you have a culture of rot, then is more rot really contributing to it when it starts at the top?
Yes. I’d say any rot deserves to be pointed out from the top all the way down.
I think it needs to be emphasized here that isn’t people being being squeamish about seeing underwear a couple of times. It was clearly a fetish for the player, and it was one that they forced people to be a participant in. Over and over. Consent didn’t matter, stating outright that you do not consent didn’t matter, public, private, event? It didn’t matter. If she was in the scene, you were likely going to be subject to her pants magically coming off and oh my god isn’t this so embarrassing. It isn’t an exaggeration to say that it probably happened on a hundred occasions or more.
If that’s your thing, fine, but these “accidental” scenarios need to happen with people who actively consent OOC to being a participant in it. Most did not, and that did not stop her. Telling her not to do it anymore didn’t stop her. She didn’t care. That was the problem. That deserves to be highlighted.
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@Meg I assure you it was not “silly” when it derailed meaningful RP, due to people simply leaving out of frustration and exasperation. Was it NC-17? No. But it was someone’s personal kink thrown in people’s faces on an at least a weekly (and sometimes daily) basis. If you were active on any grids I’m sure you can see how disruptive that is, even if you personally wouldn’t have minded someone losing their pants in every scene.
AoA is not billed as an ERP game. Most players didn’t play for that reason (at least then, not sure about now tbh). And don’t overlook the fact mentioned above, that this player was banned for the behavior on a game not exactly known for taking these sorts of things seriously.
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@Meg said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@SpilledBeanz sorry, i have to admit i am probably not the target audience to get worked up about this. sorry that happened to you and all, but it just sounds silly to me, and that may be because i am-- 4 years out from any RP?
but when you have a culture of rot, then is more rot really contributing to it when it starts at the top?
It doesn’t really matter how the offense sounds to you as staff; whether you would personally be offended or upset by it, etc. What matters is that behavior is making players uncomfortable enough to complain about it, and the behavior continues despite being told to stop it.
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@Third-Eye As a circle-backer, I can say I was mostly just feeling a creative pull to return to Star Wars and I genuinely do enjoy the coded systems / GM tools they have for storytellers on that game. Though it’s pretty clumsily-implemented, I actually think the space flight / cargo system COULD be really cool to help drive plots. You get to fly around to a bunch of diverse settings, after all.
Though I’ll say the playerbase now has definitely gotten quite small. You can still sort of fly around and if you can find some of the active folks who are fun writers (there are some!) I bet you could get some good small-scale, crew-based stories going. My own efforts to draw folks into little scuffles and Star Wars dust-ups have been met with mixed success, but then, that’s most of telling stories for folks. Sometimes they resonate, sometimes they don’t.
It’s also some of the same morbid curiosity that keeps me checking this thread. This newest revelation that someone might be the infamous panty-poser (I never got to witness this myself) is actually posting IN THIS THREAD is sadly only making me want to come back for more.
Insidious!!!
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do this game got baba yagart in it?
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@scvm actually yes
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omg…
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@Noraaa said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@Third-Eye As a circle-backer, I can say I was mostly just feeling a creative pull to return to Star Wars and I genuinely do enjoy the coded systems / GM tools they have for storytellers on that game. Though it’s pretty clumsily-implemented, I actually think the space flight / cargo system COULD be really cool to help drive plots. You get to fly around to a bunch of diverse settings, after all.
I can’t say I disagree. For all of AoA’s numerous faults, the large amount of automation made GMing easier than any other place I went to. It was easy to jump with an idea without having to consult page 305 about dodging mechanics.
Though I’ll say the playerbase now has definitely gotten quite small. You can still sort of fly around and if you can find some of the active folks who are fun writers (there are some!) I bet you could get some good small-scale, crew-based stories going.
Quite small is a way to put it. Atrophied. Sure, some folks might be active, but the good writers mostly left. Some remained, sure, but most of it is gone. Hex is gone, and he was amazing. Kasia is gone, Adhar is gone. Rheisa, who made Togruta, is gone. Most of the strange elements seem to have departed with their writers.
And as an aside, I think last time the Sith Leaders were on last year. Not sure. My passwords got changed forcibly yesterday.
Ah. And Ship Repair stations linked to an FC now get a discount. Not related to you, but AoA staff wants to make FCs more interesting. Sl, Parmac gets a discount due to Qi’Ra, the Rebellion due to Ray…
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@Ashkuri oh, I could have. I suppose morbid curiosity kept me logging on.
What I mean to say, I kinda wish I had that strength, rather than some Nostalgia having kept me coming back.
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@Zephyr yeah this kind of got old and from someone who had taken a joke too far and got told about it… I stopped. But this just kept going on. It was nearly constant… Despite how good her other characters were. She had a lot of hate for the admin and game systems even when I first started as Devii.
You mentioned the day to day rp a while back. I remember when I made Sajin and Oriana had left, that period where the game died the first time for a bit… That was the only thing that kept it alive was the bar rp. That’s where I got my writing chops, describing messily eating food and so on and so forth. Mopping the hanger floor. Arguing with my droid. I remember that more fondly than any of the other grandiose crap. Or the switch to Liz and his ridiculous excentricities.
I considered myself pretty introverted and ‘hateful’ of people but from an admin perspective I can’t see how that’s why they did what they did… Because I don’t like people and yet I wouldn’t do that to them in a playtime environment.
I would only ever return to AoA to troll. Please @Jax stop giving me ideas.
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@SqeakyClean Taking Jax? Go for it. I want logs.
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Cujo now wants suggestions from people!
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What do YOU want? Nov 21 2024 CujoAre there any major events you have dreamt of having happen in the galaxy? I am curious to know what, where, and how you think they would go down. What would you like to see happen to the galactic map? What would you like to see happen to the Rebellion? What would you like to see happen to the Sith Empire? What major events, of any ilk, have you thought the game needed to have happen, but you thought the Staff would never go for it?
Send me an @mail, and let me know. I might actually go for it.
One of the things I’ve noticed, when I overhear other people talking about this game, is that it can be challenging to alter the grid, or make impactful changes to the galaxy, and I want people to know that is not my intention with the place. Not at all. I want everyone to effect it as much as they desire, but it has to make IC sense within the believability of our setting, and the rules of the Star Wars galaxy.
But if you have an idea for something? Let me know in an @mail. Idealy, I’d like it to be events that you, or someone would GM. But really, I just want to hear what you guys want to do, but you think the Staff would never go for.
Because we just might actually go for it.
------------------------------< +bbread 7/183 >-------------------------------It “might” happen, they “might” go for it. Plus heaven forbid they run the events people want to see happen! Nope! In the unlikely event it gets rubber stamped, you have to do the heavy lifting yourself to change the grid!
