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Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo
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@helvetica said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
I mean, if I were you I would cut ties with this mess. Maybe you could help build something worthwhile with some of these players who are dedicated to making a better, more socially responsible game.
When the people who will defend others leave a space, that space gets worse. People need to know there is someone they can report this stuff to. We’ve done it with other instances. People have been banned from the game for this behavior. Every instance of harassment I have been made aware of has had investigations done and determinations made.
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@Roadspike She said she couldn’t report spying on her private scene with Cujo because it was Cujo. Maybe she meant both–You know better than me.
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@64bitjedi Those who support and defend predators are no better than the predators themselves. If you now believe and understand that there is predatory behavior there, you should either do something about it, or leave and counsel others to do the same. To do otherwise is to be silent about the missing stair, which is detrimental everyone participating in the game and to our hobby as a whole. It leads to people being surprised by predators, taken advantage of, and hurt.
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@64bitjedi said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
She said she couldn’t report spying on her private scene with Cujo because it was Cujo. Maybe she meant both–You know better than me.
You’re right, I do know better than you, because I actually read what she wrote. Cujo was the one dark, in the room, watching her TS.
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@64bitjedi said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
When the people who will defend others leave a space, that space gets worse. People need to know there is someone they can report this stuff to.
If this thread is the first time you’re hearing most of these complaints, then people do not know or believe there is someone that can report this stuff to.
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@64bitjedi said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@helvetica said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
I mean, if I were you I would cut ties with this mess. Maybe you could help build something worthwhile with some of these players who are dedicated to making a better, more socially responsible game.
When the people who will defend others leave a space, that space gets worse. People need to know there is someone they can report this stuff to. We’ve done it with other instances. People have been banned from the game for this behavior. Every instance of harassment I have been made aware of has had investigations done and determinations made.
Please don’t bullshit me.
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@64bitjedi This is pretty much going how it always goes. Cujo comes under attack, the game comes under attack, and instead of Cujo addressing it, he sends you. You put on airs that you’re the “safe person,” that you are there to “look out for us,” and then you tell Cujo and Cujo exacts his revenge quietly through bans, nukes, and removal of contributions.
It always goes this way, and you need to stop being his enforcer if you actually care about remediation and have him address his accusers.
He can make an account here.
He can address this group.
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@GF said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@64bitjedi said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
When the people who will defend others leave a space, that space gets worse. People need to know there is someone they can report this stuff to.
If this thread is the first time you’re hearing most of these complaints, then people do not know or believe there is someone that can report this stuff to.
Which is the only reason I’m here trying.
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@64bitjedi Cujo should come and do his talking himself instead of nuking people’s alts, placing their mains in the Old Guard Lounge, and presenting it to the game publicly as if it were common practice to cull people’s characters if they “retire from the game” which is honestly quite a way to describe what happened here. Not to mention calling down another longtime player for pointing out what he did publicly and saying that if they really cared they would say something privately rather than in public. Because obviously addressing this situation privately has worked out for everyone involved so far.
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@64bitjedi All you’ve managed to prove is that you’re incompetent and ignorant.
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@blu said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@64bitjedi This is pretty much going how it always goes. Cujo comes under attack, the game comes under attack, and instead of Cujo addressing it, he sends you. You put on airs that you’re the “safe person,” that you are there to “look out for us,” and then you tell Cujo and Cujo exacts his revenge quietly through bans, nukes, and removal of contributions.
It always goes this way, and you need to stop being his enforcer if you actually care about remediation and have him address his accusers.
He can make an account here.
He can address this group.
I can assure you nobody thinks my being here is a good idea.
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@64bitjedi said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@GF said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@64bitjedi said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
When the people who will defend others leave a space, that space gets worse. People need to know there is someone they can report this stuff to.
If this thread is the first time you’re hearing most of these complaints, then people do not know or believe there is someone that can report this stuff to.
Which is the only reason I’m here trying.
Take an action. Boot your problem staff or leave that game to start a new life. Otherwise, the only thing you’re here trying to do is PR, in which case we’ll feed you to @Jennkryst and their screenshots again.
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Contrition is real hard to fake but ballsy to not even try.
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I have zero faith that anything will be done about Hadrix at this point. Everything posted in here seems more and more like “We totally told him to knock it off, our job is done.”
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@helvetica said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@64bitjedi said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@GF said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@64bitjedi said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
When the people who will defend others leave a space, that space gets worse. People need to know there is someone they can report this stuff to.
If this thread is the first time you’re hearing most of these complaints, then people do not know or believe there is someone that can report this stuff to.
Which is the only reason I’m here trying.
Take an action. Boot your problem staff or leave that game to start a new life. Otherwise, the only thing you’re here trying to do is PR, in which case we’ll feed you to @Jennkryst and their screenshots again.
Actions are being taken. I said I was making it up as I go along, I didn’t say nothing was being done.
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This is the problem with opaque procedures. All we have for proof that anything’s happening is the word of staff, and nine months of precisely zero behavior changes from problem players.
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@SolarFlare said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
This is the problem with opaque procedures. All we have for proof that anything’s happening is the word of staff, and nine months of precisely zero behavior changes from problem players.
… and a bunch of people leaving because nothing is getting fixed.
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@64bitjedi said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@helvetica said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@64bitjedi said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@GF said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@64bitjedi said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
When the people who will defend others leave a space, that space gets worse. People need to know there is someone they can report this stuff to.
If this thread is the first time you’re hearing most of these complaints, then people do not know or believe there is someone that can report this stuff to.
Which is the only reason I’m here trying.
Take an action. Boot your problem staff or leave that game to start a new life. Otherwise, the only thing you’re here trying to do is PR, in which case we’ll feed you to @Jennkryst and their screenshots again.
Actions are being taken. I said I was making it up as I go along, I didn’t say nothing was being done.
What actions. Don’t say investigation.
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@blu Okay, nine months that I have solid evidence of.
Also, yet another “How dare you call me out in public instead of in private where I can just tell you to fuck off without anyone finding out” by Cujo in +public just happened.
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And icing to the cake, Cujo finally speaks on game.
**Hello all.
Recently the game added staffers, and a month or so later removed staffers. We were preparing for the time jump, and decided to take a chance on a group of new staff members. The ones who were the most active were kept, the others we took out of the staff roster. Two of them wanted someone banned from the game who they believed was a sexual harasser. The evidence had been given to us some time ago, some of it was witnessed in-person by myself.
I decided the evidence was not enough to have someone banned. They were deemed to be ill-timed jokes, at worst. The person was asked not to make those kinds of jokes again.
Yes, this person was added to staff as part of the group that was brought in to help. The situations that were used as evidence happened over a year ago. It was two claims of evidence. One was from 2018, the other from last year. The jokes were dealt with by talking to the player.
Hadrix / Rev was that player. I believe he’s taken to heart the after-math of those moments here. I believe he gets himself overly excited, and is capable of acting out. I believe just about everyone is capable of that, some worse than others.
Hadrix is on Staff now, yes, and like everyone else on Staff, if he behaves poorly he can, and will, get removed. The fact is that I need help, and I bring on people that I think will help me do work behind the scenes. This game requires a ton of behind the scenes management of ships, weapons, armor, clothing, planets, star systems, the galaxy, and everything inside it.
Not everyone would work out on Staff, some just wouldn’t be able to figure out the issues, others might be overwhelmed by it. Most of you just wouldn’t want to do it, because it isn’t fun. Being on Staff is not a promotion, if anything it’s additional workload x10 what you might expect.
But at the end of the day, yes, Hadrix was accused of sexually slanted harassment. The evidence that was given to Staff, both pieces of it, were reviewed, and he was asked to improve his behavior. It’s been over a year now, and overall, I personally feel that he has improved his behavior. It doesn’t mean he is impervious against punishment, or a ban. A ban is possible for him, for everyone if they become an active burden upon the playerbase, and the game’s health. I don’t feel Hadrix is either of those things right now though, and in fact he has been helping me a ton with the pre-Time Jump workload. This is why he was retained on Staff as one of the top 3 active newcomers.
All sexual harassment claims are taken seriously though, and if deemed valid, and actively a serious burden, then expect that player to get banned. We have had about 3 major cases of this in the past 8 years, and those 3 cases were dealt with swiftly once the proper evidence was ruled upon.
The game’s goal right now is to focus on the Time Jump in to the future, and that’s what we ultimately hope to keep the game’s direction entirely aimed toward.
- Cujo**
