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MU Peeves Thread
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Kind of off-topic from MU* Haven drama, so posting this here as an addendum to my post on that thread.
A few days after showing the shitshow in there to the RL friend of mine who pointed out all the red flags and dog-whistles I’d missed, I was idly browsing some other MU* related Discord servers I’m in and happened to click on someone’s profile. Not the same person, but this one also happened to be littered with a whooole bunch of dog-whistles I’d previously missed.
And, to this one’s credit, I’ve shared a game and community with them for at least two years without ever having any problems with them, because I guess they generally keep their opinions to themselves, or contain them to whomever/wherever else on Discord they’re waving those signals for.
I’m really annoyed and grossed out, though, because this is someone who actually has a fairly bad reputation in said communities, whom I’d nonetheless defended, as I felt the reputation was unearned. In particular they’re well known for being a frequent collaborator of someone I’d agree is objectively awful, but my stance was always that you can’t judge someone just for who they’re friends with, especially if they’re stuck in a community where the only people who don’t exclude them are those who’ve likewise been excluded. I took pains to not feed into what I felt was an unjust narrative surrounding them, and to instead try to make them feel included, and encourage others to give them a chance. This is how they’d ended up in a shared server with me in the first place — I invited them.
I’m frustrated that I gave someone the benefit of the doubt when I shouldn’t have, and advocated on their behalf, only to now learn they’re someone who wouldn’t hesitate to spread hate about me. Considering the warnings I had, if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck and quacks like a duck, I guess I should’ve damn well known it wasn’t a stigmatised swan.
Since a lot of the bad things I’d heard about them came from a tight-knit cadre who’d previously spread malicious and entirely untrue rumours about me — well, I think that a lot of us in this hobby have been the victims of misplaced empathy, and suspicion that skews our decisions factional instead of rational.
A multi-layered peeve from me today.
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@Kestrel said in MU Peeves Thread:
I’m frustrated that I gave someone the benefit of the doubt when I shouldn’t have, and advocated on their behalf, only to now learn they’re someone who wouldn’t hesitate to spread hate about me. Considering the warnings I had, if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck and quacks like a duck, I guess I should’ve damn well known it wasn’t a stigmatised swan.
Man. This is a mood.
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I hate having to say ‘no’ to a request. I have an airtight reason for saying no, but it isn’t one I want to broadcast. So I said no to a perfectly pleasant person who was asking for a thing I would normally be 100% yes to. Now I worry they will think I don’t want anything to do with them when that is the furthest thing from the truth. I’m not sharing my why though. That is my business and I don’t feel bad about that.
I just feel bad someone else might feel bad.
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@junipersky In that instance, the only advice I could give would be a “no, but…” rather than a straight no. “No I don’t want to come to your slumber party, but we could do coffee instead.”
He/Him. Opinions and views are solely my own unless specifically stated otherwise.
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Alas, his thing didn’t really have an alternative, though I did shove a half dozen other names of people at him who could maybe do it.
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If you’re playing a 16-20 year old in a modern day MU*, can you at least try to be a believable member of Gen Z? I’m seeing too many ‘teen’ characters that act like 30+ year old Millennials and Gen Xs. It really breaks my immersion.
At least look up how Gen Z acts and learn some of their slang. It’s low-key cringe if you don’t. (See what I did there?)
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@jujube said in MU Peeves Thread:
If you’re playing a 16-20 year old in a modern day MU*, can you at least try to be a believable member of Gen Z? I’m seeing too many ‘teen’ characters that act like 30+ year old Millennials and Gen Xs. It really breaks my immersion.
At least look up how Gen Z acts and learn some of their slang. It’s low-key cringe if you don’t. (See what I did there?)
No. If you fuckers can’t be bothered learning basic history for your characters, I’m not learning pop culture.
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@jujube said in MU Peeves Thread:
If you’re playing a 16-20 year old in a modern day MU*, can you at least try to be a believable member of Gen Z? I’m seeing too many ‘teen’ characters that act like 30+ year old Millennials and Gen Xs. It really breaks my immersion.
At least look up how Gen Z acts and learn some of their slang. It’s low-key cringe if you don’t. (See what I did there?)
I’m gonna guess you stay far away from Lords and Ladies games because their speech patterns aren’t accurately portrayed.
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I refuse to rp any character who knows what dabbing is.
let it be a challenge to you
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Also, has no teenager or child told you recently that dabbing is now cringe?
Because I have.
Multiple times.
(Which means I dab more gdi)
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@junipersky no, I don’t meet youths much in my line of work, and when I do, dabbing doesn’t actually come up. I found out about dabbing from listening to TAZ, and one of the few youths I know had to explain it to me. It took several tries.
Yeet was much easier to learn.
let it be a challenge to you
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@sao I hate to tell you this but ‘yeet’ is right out.
But I love it and I’m gonna keep using it.
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I used ‘yeet’ in a pandemic lesson and my students acted like I had murdered their families.
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@Snackness lol. Yeah I figured it was no longer in when I saw people misusing it on the news in an attempt to be “with it”.
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@sao ay no cap fam that shit bussin’. Respectfully, on god. Drip check – sheeeeeeeesh. Vibe is in retrograde but the fit is GOATed.
Ask me about professional wrestling.
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@jujube I can’t even manage to be a believable member of the generation I actually am!
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Playing a young/teen character is less about nailing the slang du jour and more about being vulnerable, inexperienced, confident about things you have no real clue about, unconfident about things that really are okay, feeling Big Emotions and maybe not knowing what to do with them, and discovering Nietzsche and then explaining it to people 25 years older than you.
I think it’s tricky for players because believable teens get so much “wrong” as they flail into adulthood (and players don’t like to be wrong), not so much because it’s hard to know when not to say yeet.
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Slang is born in the Black and Queer cultures, and then because it’s cool, the youth start using it. Around this time, the Black and Queer cultures sigh and move on to some new slang. Then people notice that the youth are using it, so the wider culture starts using it. At this point, the youth stop using it and move on to the new slang the Black and Queer communities created. The wider culture will not stop using this slang, until the new slang (which is actually now old slang) created by the Black and Queer cultures percolates down to them again.
Thus is the cycle of slanglife.
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All I have to contribute to this subject is that there is never anything that makes you sound like a cranky old fart as much as complaining about keeping up with slang, lol.
