As someone who once Staffed on AOA (long, long ago), I am not surprised that harassers like this… person who I am honestly too lazy to scroll up and find his name again… are not removed from their position of power.

Considering that a current member of Staff has, in the past, set himself dark and sat in the same room I was TSing in, and I only figured it out because I have this obsessive habit of typing WHO and +WHERE on my Staff bit (no reason, just like, a habit) and saw him in the room. And I couldn’t really tell Cujo… because… it was Cujo.

So.

Yeah.

There’s that.

@64bitjedi This is pretty much going how it always goes. Cujo comes under attack, the game comes under attack, and instead of Cujo addressing it, he sends you. You put on airs that you’re the “safe person,” that you are there to “look out for us,” and then you tell Cujo and Cujo exacts his revenge quietly through bans, nukes, and removal of contributions.

It always goes this way, and you need to stop being his enforcer if you actually care about remediation and have him address his accusers.

He can make an account here.

He can address this group.

OK, there’s lots of games before my recollection. I was on Star Wars: Age of Alliances and various other random places. So, onward (and yes, I used Road’s list to help remind me because we’re attached at the hip).

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Darth Anathe, sith enforcer
Tilly Fel, twi’lek mechanic
Molliela, mercenary
Raze, Mandalorian
Twirrl, Republic Staffer

Cuendillar
Aloysia, failed accepted
Ihina, accepted
Laurellia, noblewoman
Someone else who I can’t remember, black ajah

Vampire Masquerade
Eleanor, Ventrue-adopted Malkavian

Chicago MUSH
Nell, jazz singer

Steel and Stone
Saffron Mallister, lady
Sela Snow, bastard
Anathema Nayland, witch and lady

The Fifth World
Ellinor Sauveur, knight and drake-hunter
Lethe Vallas, musician
Devon Khournas, lady and psychomancer
Lionel Keats, omniflirt and knight

Star Wars: Generations of Darkness
Leandra, ex-mechanic and queen of Onderon
Mae Vertias, fallen Jedi
Raze, Mandalorian

Star Wars: Omens
Tilly, twi’lek Mandalorian mechanic
Anathema, sith

Realms Adventurous
Arian de Laverstock, knight

The 100 MUSH
Hanne, botanist intern
Gideon, scout
Galle, healer
Andromeda, Staffer

Arx
Iona Bisland, loyal duchess (briefly)

BSU
Isolde, mechanic
Rothschild, hero marine
Bean, enlisted-old marine

Fires of Hope
Valara Vox, rebel

The Eighth Sea
Aoife, thief
Serra, vodun pirate

CoMux
Rami Ghai, OC Shield Agent
Barbara Gordon, Batgirl
Kate Bishop, the BEST Hawkeye
Foggy Nelson, the BEST Lawyer

Common Descent
Barbara Gordon, Batgirl
Foggy Nelson, still the BEST Lawyer
Kate Bishop, still the BEST Hawkeye
Scarecrow, terrorizer of Gotham
Mystique, blue (sometimes)

Spirit Lake
Cara Callaghan, botanist/ecologist
Hugh Larsen, small jobs guy

Gray Harbor
Magnolia Jones, PI
Astrid Miller-Eriksen, ecologist student and shieldmaiden

Dove Cove
Patricia “Patch” Song, trauma nurse

Keys
Cara Calder, ethnobotanist

The Last Road
Nobody, literally what his name was
Anathema, broodmother

Stargate
Patch Song, astronaut and AF pilot

The Savage Skies
Myrtle Pratt, pilot
Tilly Chauveau, mechanic
Nora Byrne, pilot
Frances Quinn, ground ops
Jane Clarke, intelligence
London, Staff

The Network
Beth Larsen, The Blue-Collar Warlock

Crystal Springs
Cleo Myles Dormer, quiet smartie pants
Astrid MIller-Eriksen, rich hipster
Elle Jones, police’s kid

At Present:
The Network
Ellie Myer, The McCoy
Blu, storyteller

takes big, gasping breaths as she finally catches up on this thread

Consensual sex is good. Slut-shamming is bad. TS is glorious.

@Kestrel is a god, or something. Demigod? Dark sidhe?

But it’s okay if you don’t commit ban-able offenses on MSB, because some of you are still engaging enough with their HEAL THE COMMUNITY post that the mirror keeps flashing back in their direction.

Also—I’ll ban your ass if I know you’re a piece of shit on another game, don’t care if you’ve not done your normal shit on my game yet. I shall return you to the cesspool from whence you came, receipt or not. I don’t got time for you. To quote my convo with @Roadspike in the car today—

@CuriousGamer I admit I was not going to say anything and then got anxious when the question was posed when it happened (Road encouraged me to say something because it still creates a history of action, and I think spying on someone’s intimacy and sexual interactions is highly inappropriate, particularly now that I can look at it from the distance of time).

His disregard for Hadrix still demonstrates a lack of awareness.

@Pavel said in Bannings:

This is how I best understand the clique membership, but I could be wrong:

Went back and forth with @Roadspike on this whole thing, whether or not I should say something. It was a while ago, but then I realized I was talking myself into excusing behavior that might persistent into the present.

And fuck that bullshit.

@Anony-Mouse said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

On AoA, Cujo & Creeps also listen in on pages. They also have the habit of quietly removing players’ ability to speak on the Public and Newbie channels. I know of several people who had this happen after they spoke up on something Cujo didn’t want to hear about (a subject Cujo himself brought up in one case, and in another case giving chargen advice on DSS), or said something that made him look stupid or uncool (which was only pulling off his mask). If you’re still on that game, don’t say anything in pages you don’t want them to hear. They will.

I am very, very, very, very much aware as a former Staffer that use of the suspect system was not to protect other players. AOA paired with Generations of Darkness where Kitty also abused the use of the suspect system has made me VERY wary of playing anywhere that has Penn or Rhost.

I have very vivid memories of being a victim of the suspect system when I was struggling with an OOC romantic relationship with another player/staffer where I was talking to someone else about it and those pages were passed along to the person I was with at the time.

When Staff starts using a system meant to protect players from abusers to instead spy on players they don’t like or to get dirt on people, that’s a big red flag for me.

It’s amazing how you don’t even think about a game and suddenly it gets brought up, and you’re like:

Wow, the shit I remember thinking was “okay, but sketchy” in my yesteryears and now going “Holy shit that was abusive in reflection,” and it is obviously still going on.

No one has publicly called them out for it before, and I just walked away from AOA after an attempt to come back 8-ish years ago and never looked back.

@Wizz said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

But I was so extremely burnt out by the experience I just bounced entirely for a while…

This.

I was puzzling with Zephyr why I didn’t say something when I left the last time, but I think I just couldn’t go through rehashing everything.

@Das-Auto said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

Cujo plays Din Djarin as well.

For me, it’s a sudden and sharp reality that I can’t do it on my own (or we can’t, if I speak for @Roadspike too). Most of the time, our games close because RL rears up (The 100 closed because of our spawn being born and TSS closed after Road’s mom died and we couldn’t kick it back to life after it floundered).

Right now, I can’t bring myself to open another game if it’s just Road and me running it; we need helpers. I’d feel like shit if we opened a game again and then couldn’t maintain it because RL isn’t always stable.

But Road knows how to make FS3 do almost anything; we’re good at theme-writing/world-building. Maybe one day we will either be able to hire in storytellers/game support and give that whole game-running thing another go.

@GF said in Bannings:

I broke my self-promise about staying away from MSB

I know @Roadspike bowed out today, which isn’t his usual MO. Based on his Willpower for Arguing With People On the Internet, I expected him to keep at it, but nope.

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@Zephyr said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

everyone here was just a bunch of angry, lying people who were banned from games

I am angry.

I only lie about Santa Claus, or who ate the last cookie (sorry @Roadspike, IT WAS ME).

But, um… I’d really like to see logs/screenshots if you would be OK DM’ing them to me. Mostly because… I’ve been there, and I guess I want to see if things are the same as I suspect they’ve always been. If you don’t mind.

While I might be biased because I designed the web portal, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND this game if you:

1. like playing Marvel-based games but also would like to see some really cool interpretations/alternations to roster characters;
2. have difficult times always being around for live scenes because there’s a lot of fun async scenes to join in on, and;
3. want staffers that are really flexible and eager to get people involved. Mind and Power have not hesitated to give me stuff to play with and I’m having a right fun time.

@Testament

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@Tat said in What Makes a Healthy Community and How to Deal When it Isn't:

I’d love to have it as a TRUE resource of different viewpoints and experiences, rather than one where said differences frequently end in a shouting match .

Here, here.

@IoleRae said in What Makes a Healthy Community and How to Deal When it Isn't:

The need for “civility” is used to silence abuse victims, particularly in relation to their abuser and the accusations. I’ll leave it at that.

I admit that the word “civility” has been tarnished lately, particularly as I listen to the hubby having to deal with people at school board meetings. They call for civility because they don’t want to be aggressively attacked being bigots, racists, so on and so forth; they want to say their not-so-cleverly-cloaked bigoted statements and then rear-up in emotional outrage that someone called them out for being a bigot. The Civility Pledge has been used as a method to protect bad actors.

@Roz said in What Makes a Healthy Community and How to Deal When it Isn't:

Personally, I really try to maintain a certain amount of – I don’t know that I’d call it civility, but etiquette? Respectability? When I’m posting about conflicts, because I know it’ll go farther with others in the conversation. Not because we should not be allowed our rage and emotion in situations that warrant it; I’m just trying really hard to not give other people space to just dismiss me for being too ROWDY.

I think we all know what we are trying to label, but labels are hard. What we’re really pinpointing is kinda like that one porn quote—we know it when we see it.

@Herja said in What Makes a Healthy Community and How to Deal When it Isn't:

Who even gets to define what is ‘civil’ or not?

And whoever defines it, we’re all going to squinty-eye at anyway.