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Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo
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I mean, not to be that weirdo, but as long as everyone involved consented to the situation, meh?
Obviously yeet the jerks if there was OOC pressure involved, but aside from that…
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@GF said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
This is gross and fuck those guys for introducing sex crimes to Star Wars.
I’m not trying to be a downer but these guys aren’t the ones who introduced sex crimes to Star Wars.
You know how in the third movie there was a Twi’lek girl dancing and when she tried not to get manhandled by Jabba, he murdered her? And how Leia was in a metal bikini and strangled Jabba with his own chain?
Sex crimes have always been an unfortunate part of Star Wars, and especially in the expanded universe. Twi’lek society is literally based around slavery, especially selling Twi’lek girls to men, because human men find them exotic.
So absolutely blame these jackasses for glorifying it, but George Lucas introduced sex crimes to Star Wars a loooong time ago… which is why it attracts so many creepers.
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@SolarFlare said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@Das-Auto Huh. Wonder if Maelstrom is Sumi.
She is not. Sumi does not have a staff alt.
Update. I now have receipts of Maelstrom contradicting her own post. DM if you want them.
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@Adora look its actually very rude of you to remind me of scenes id forgotten, in future please just agree with me even when im wrong
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@Adora said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
You know how in the third movie there was a Twi’lek girl dancing and when she tried not to get manhandled by Jabba, he murdered her? And how Leia was in a metal bikini and strangled Jabba with his own chain?
Dramatically speaking, Oola was there to show the danger of denying Jabba anything, and highlight the danger Leia was later in. None of the above was a good thing, but it made sense in the context of a high octane adventure story, and accentuated Jabba’s foulness.
On AoA, it’s more like Mandalorians (and Mandalorian imitators, depending on who you talk to) waiting to club unsuspecting female PCs and drag them into their starships.
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@Anony-Mouse I’m not arguing that there’s differences between the way the sex crimes are portrayed and the story behind them, just pointing out that the Star Wars universe is full of horrifying misogyny and sex crimes from its outset.
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@GF Stop quoting my mother.
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@Das-Auto said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@SolarFlare said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@Das-Auto Huh. Wonder if Maelstrom is Sumi.
She is not. Sumi does not have a staff alt.
Update. I now have receipts of Maelstrom contradicting her own post. DM if you want them.
Yet… LOL
I believe Maelstrom is Valeska/Ulani/Xavier. I would host events sometimes, but she’d rarely show up. Conversely, she would seemingly always show up to Aryn and Bors’ (or their Alts stuff) like clockwork. She was always on Velsaka and doing Kora things. I don’t think she missed a single Kora event.
This tracks for her as a person. Often described as flakey. She showed up in the middle of an event and got upset she couldn’t jump in (Mind you, I didn’t say she couldn’t she just had trouble with the continuity of it all.) Kind of had a mental breakdown (I don’t know if she was trying to emotionally manipulate me or not into feeling bad that there was a miscommunication on the time the event started or not.) And left, then came back, then left again. Clearly flustered over the whole thing. Though, she ended up apologizing afterward. We all have bad days.
She pretty much kept the Sith going with events, though few and far between. Probably the least crappy out of the new hires… still not great though. Clearly.
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So char logins are down to 36, that’s the lowest I’ve seen them on this game - so looks like the word of mouth (and silent bannings) may be having an affect!
But wait, before you hit the abandoned ship button, there’s a post about making player complaints! (Does it matter if you make a player complaint if noone is around to do something about it? Like if a tree falls in a forest and noone is there, does it make a sound?)
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“staff is dedicated to mediating and helping seek resolutions”
Do they think people don’t understand what this means?
Everything else aside, YOU CANNOT FUCKING MEDIATE BETWEEN A SEXUAL HARASSOR AND THEIR VICTIM. There is no appropriate resolution to be sought beyond GET RID OF THE PREDATOR.
that’s not how this works. that’s not how ANY of this works.
“have staff and the predator badger you until you either withdraw your complaint or go away” is what this post invites people to do.
I’m sure people are totally going to line up to be told they’re too sensitive, that Hadrix was joking, that he didn’t KNOW they were uncomfortable, and also it’s just a game why are you taking it so seriously/personally, and how he has a wife and she likes being talked to like that so it can’t be sexual harassment, and it was just his CHARACTER he’s a nice guy, and anyway he invested so much OOC time and so many IC resources in your character and it’s pretty ungrateful/scummy for you to have been leading him on if this is how you’re gonna be. seems like you led him on to get the stuff, and then once you got the stuff you put in a complaint so you get to keep it, no consequences. that’s cheating! So from now on, you’re not allowed to be in any scenes with him, and if you’re somewhere and he shows up, you need to excuse yourself, because you’re the one with the problem. fucking hysterical women.
$1 says that if any apology is offered, it includes the words “I’m sorry that you”
the entity previously known as Sunny
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Mediating also requires, at minimum, training in and for it to be a neutral party. Based on this thread, I’m not sure a single staff member of AoA could be a neutral party.
Additionally for mediation to work both sides need to agree to it, actively seek it as an issue and want to see resolution to it. So often it gets offered as a method to resolve issues in the workplace when the other person doesn’t see an issue with their behaviour and what caused the issue.
Anyway. I’m not sure what resolution a sexual predator would see to their behaviour as they are so far beyond help and need yeeting rather than a sit down chat with their victims.
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@IoleRae I know nobody believes me but you’re spot on, because this is just them wishing that if only everyone could get along the game would be big and successful.
They think that if only they could moderate and get everyone to get along, things would be peachy keen.
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@Whisky said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
Mediating also requires, at minimum, training in
I wouldn’t go quite that far. Neutrality, absolutely, but specialist training? Nah. The average person can often mediate conflicts just fine.
Not this lot, though, they couldn’t mediate a divorce between corpses.
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@Polk said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
They think that if only they could moderate and get everyone to get along, things would be peachy keen.
that only has the possibility of working when there are no bad actors, and even then, people in large groups don’t ever all get along. it’s a straight up stupid and INCREDIBLY immature perspective.
the entity previously known as Sunny
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This just fucking get worse and worse, how the fuck!
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@Pavel - I dunno, I’ve seen enough workplace managers go “I can sort this out” and end up making things worse that I wouldn’t trust them anywhere near a sexual predator case.
Let alone a he said/she said/they said case.
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@Whisky Well yeah, but you don’t mediate a sexual predator case.
ETA: Also I said average person, nowhere did I stoop so low as to talk about management.
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@IoleRae Absolutely right. And that’s precisely my read on Cujo. Just not emotionally mature about this stuff, even if he’s been at it however many years.
