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    • PavelP
      Pavel
      last edited by

      I will say that lots of what people are picking out as accents, like cannae and dinnae etc aren’t actually just accents, they’re elements of Scots. A language (or dialect, depending on your definition) all its own.

      A minor gripe, to be sure, but fuck lexical essentialism.

      He/Him. Opinions and views are solely my own unless specifically stated otherwise.
      BE AN ADULT

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      • GashlycrumbG
        Gashlycrumb @hellfrog
        last edited by Gashlycrumb

        @hellfrog And yet it’s a much-praised work, in spite of not winning a Booker and Welsh griping that the Booker is “imperialist” and “anti-Scottish.”

        I don’t think Welsh is so great.

        Maybe it doesn’t technically count as a “spelled out accent” but is Scots language.

        And

        Wee, sleekit, cowrin, tim’rous beastie,
        O, what a panic’s in thy breastie!
        Thou need na start awa sae hasty,
        Wi’ bickering brattle!
        I wad be laith to rin an’ chase thee,
        Wi’ murdering pattle!

        I’m truly sorry Man’s dominion
        Has broken Nature’s social union,
        An’ justifies that ill opinion
        Which makes thee startle
        At me, thy poor, earth-born companion
        An’ fellow-mortal!

        etc

        ETA Robbie Burns

        "This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard!"
        – A. Bertram Chandler

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        • PolkP
          Polk @Pavel
          last edited by Polk

          @Pavel Right. The reason that, for example, Auld Lang Syne has so many strange words in it that it’s not in English. It’s in Scots.

          And well, a Scottish person jabbering away in Scots is going to be virtually unintelligible to most people. So you might as well just write <Scots intensifies>, or at least outright emit that <you probably wouldn’t understand but a word being said here> so people don’t feel the need to try to parse it.

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          • SnacknessS
            Snackness
            last edited by Snackness

            Y’all got me. It’s not that I hate typed out dialect, it’s that I hate Scots and I’m an unread bumpkin.

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            • PavelP
              Pavel @Polk
              last edited by

              @Polk There’s also the consideration that some folks can parse it rather easily, either natively or through exposure; therefore they simply don’t know that others can’t. So it’s not intended to be annoying, it’s just how they or people around them use language. So tell them.

              He/Him. Opinions and views are solely my own unless specifically stated otherwise.
              BE AN ADULT

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              • PolkP
                Polk @Pavel
                last edited by

                @Pavel Absolutely right. Assume the best, and you often get just that.

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                • GashlycrumbG
                  Gashlycrumb @Snackness
                  last edited by

                  @Snackness Naw, you hate typed out dialect. You’re allowed.

                  "This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard!"
                  – A. Bertram Chandler

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                    GF @Cobalt
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                    @Cobalt said in MU Peeves Thread:

                    (At fifteen I was convinced only 100% strict “proper” English was correct. At fifteen I was an asshole.)

                    Did you have a copy of “Eats, Shoots and Leaves” with the panda stickers in the back to put on typos? I had a copy of “Eats, Shoots and Leaves” with the panda stickers in the back to put on typos.

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                    • RozR
                      Roz @GF
                      last edited by

                      @GF said in MU Peeves Thread:

                      @Cobalt said in MU Peeves Thread:

                      (At fifteen I was convinced only 100% strict “proper” English was correct. At fifteen I was an asshole.)

                      Did you have a copy of “Eats, Shoots and Leaves” with the panda stickers in the back to put on typos? I had a copy of “Eats, Shoots and Leaves” with the panda stickers in the back to put on typos.

                      I had a copy of the book, and my parents still make comments and jokes about my grammar strictness, in the way that parents do when they don’t know you’ve outgrown a part of your childhood because you now understand the classist and racist nature of strict grammar adherence wait where are you going I’m not done with explaining–

                      she/her | playlist

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                        GF @Roz
                        last edited by

                        @Roz Your wording of your post made me notice that no one in this thread has said “grammar Nazi” and that makes me very happy.

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                        • RozR
                          Roz @GF
                          last edited by

                          @GF Yeah, I also grew out of that one years back.

                          she/her | playlist

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                          • saoS
                            sao
                            last edited by

                            I doubt anyone who types out dialect is doing it because they intend to be annoying, they’re just succeeding at being annoying.

                            let it be a challenge to you

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                            • GashlycrumbG
                              Gashlycrumb
                              last edited by

                              When people type ‘viscous’ when they mean ‘vicious’ I find it interferes with my immersion.

                              "This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard!"
                              – A. Bertram Chandler

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                                Roadspike @Gashlycrumb
                                last edited by

                                @Gashlycrumb But it’s much easier to immerse yourself in something viscous than something vicious.

                                Formerly known as Seraphim73 (he/him)

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                                • GashlycrumbG
                                  Gashlycrumb @Roadspike
                                  last edited by

                                  @Roadspike This is the problem with the viscous attacks. I’m immersed, in the wrong way.

                                  "This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard!"
                                  – A. Bertram Chandler

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                                  • PavelP
                                    Pavel @Gashlycrumb
                                    last edited by

                                    @Gashlycrumb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Molasses_Flood

                                    He/Him. Opinions and views are solely my own unless specifically stated otherwise.
                                    BE AN ADULT

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                                      Corinthian @Pavel
                                      last edited by

                                      @Pavel So my wife told me about her worst day at work ever, when a young kid came into the ER with constipation, and the doc ordered a milk and molasses enema.

                                      Apparently it was like that scene from Daddy Daycare. You know the one.

                                      And yes, I created an account just to make this comment.

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                                      • WuffW
                                        Wuff @Corinthian
                                        last edited by

                                        @Corinthian

                                        While this probably is meant for the RL peeves thread. I can only hope she was not the one that had to clean up.

                                        daddy day care

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                                        • farfallaF
                                          farfalla @Pavel
                                          last edited by

                                          @Pavel said in MU Peeves Thread:

                                          I will say that lots of what people are picking out as accents, like cannae and dinnae etc aren’t actually just accents, they’re elements of Scots. A language (or dialect, depending on your definition) all its own.

                                          Agreed. But that kind of supports the point - we’re RPing in English. I neither speak nor understand written Scots. Just as no one should start writing all of their dialogue in Italian.

                                          as previously stated, good day.

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                                          • L. B. HeuschkelL
                                            L. B. Heuschkel @farfalla
                                            last edited by

                                            @farfalla People do look at me funny when my Danish character starts ranting to himself in Danish.

                                            But then, I don’t expect them to understand it and respond to it, either.

                                            Any pronouns. Come to Chincoteague. We have ponies. http://keys.aresmush.com

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