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    • SnacknessS
      Snackness @Cobalt
      last edited by

      @Cobalt I have never asked anyone to stop it. I just come to this place and bitch about it.

      (that’s not true, I bitched at WORA and MSB, this place didn’t exist when the accents were thick on the ground)

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      • GashlycrumbG
        Gashlycrumb @SpaceKhomeini
        last edited by

        @SpaceKhomeini said in MU Peeves Thread:

        Until I can find an algorithm that can properly figure out just when “bawbag” should enter a sentence, I will cling to this stance.

        AI will never manage this, and in Scotland, CAPTCHA asks you to correctly place ‘bawbag’ in a pre-generated sentence.

        BUT just throwing it in randomly works about 80% of the time.

        "This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard!"
        – A. Bertram Chandler

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        • hellfrogH
          hellfrog @Gashlycrumb
          last edited by

          @Gashlycrumb said in MU Peeves Thread:

          “Society invents a spurious convoluted logic tae absorb and change people whae’s behaviour is outside its mainstream. Suppose that ah ken aw the pros and cons, know that ah’m gaunnae huv a short life, am ah sound mind, ectetera, ectetera, but still want tae use smack? They won’t let ye dae it. They won’t let ye dae it, because it’s seen as a sign ay thir ain failure."
          – Irvine Welsh, Trainspotting.

          This is terrible, and I hate reading it. I’m sorry.

          fr fr
          (she/her)

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          • PavelP
            Pavel
            last edited by

            I will say that lots of what people are picking out as accents, like cannae and dinnae etc aren’t actually just accents, they’re elements of Scots. A language (or dialect, depending on your definition) all its own.

            A minor gripe, to be sure, but fuck lexical essentialism.

            He/Him. Opinions and views are solely my own unless specifically stated otherwise.
            BE AN ADULT

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            • GashlycrumbG
              Gashlycrumb @hellfrog
              last edited by Gashlycrumb

              @hellfrog And yet it’s a much-praised work, in spite of not winning a Booker and Welsh griping that the Booker is “imperialist” and “anti-Scottish.”

              I don’t think Welsh is so great.

              Maybe it doesn’t technically count as a “spelled out accent” but is Scots language.

              And

              Wee, sleekit, cowrin, tim’rous beastie,
              O, what a panic’s in thy breastie!
              Thou need na start awa sae hasty,
              Wi’ bickering brattle!
              I wad be laith to rin an’ chase thee,
              Wi’ murdering pattle!

              I’m truly sorry Man’s dominion
              Has broken Nature’s social union,
              An’ justifies that ill opinion
              Which makes thee startle
              At me, thy poor, earth-born companion
              An’ fellow-mortal!

              etc

              ETA Robbie Burns

              "This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard!"
              – A. Bertram Chandler

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              • PolkP
                Polk @Pavel
                last edited by Polk

                @Pavel Right. The reason that, for example, Auld Lang Syne has so many strange words in it that it’s not in English. It’s in Scots.

                And well, a Scottish person jabbering away in Scots is going to be virtually unintelligible to most people. So you might as well just write <Scots intensifies>, or at least outright emit that <you probably wouldn’t understand but a word being said here> so people don’t feel the need to try to parse it.

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                • SnacknessS
                  Snackness
                  last edited by Snackness

                  Y’all got me. It’s not that I hate typed out dialect, it’s that I hate Scots and I’m an unread bumpkin.

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                  • PavelP
                    Pavel @Polk
                    last edited by

                    @Polk There’s also the consideration that some folks can parse it rather easily, either natively or through exposure; therefore they simply don’t know that others can’t. So it’s not intended to be annoying, it’s just how they or people around them use language. So tell them.

                    He/Him. Opinions and views are solely my own unless specifically stated otherwise.
                    BE AN ADULT

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                    • PolkP
                      Polk @Pavel
                      last edited by

                      @Pavel Absolutely right. Assume the best, and you often get just that.

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                      • GashlycrumbG
                        Gashlycrumb @Snackness
                        last edited by

                        @Snackness Naw, you hate typed out dialect. You’re allowed.

                        "This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard!"
                        – A. Bertram Chandler

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                        • G
                          GF @Cobalt
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                          @Cobalt said in MU Peeves Thread:

                          (At fifteen I was convinced only 100% strict “proper” English was correct. At fifteen I was an asshole.)

                          Did you have a copy of “Eats, Shoots and Leaves” with the panda stickers in the back to put on typos? I had a copy of “Eats, Shoots and Leaves” with the panda stickers in the back to put on typos.

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                          • RozR
                            Roz @GF
                            last edited by

                            @GF said in MU Peeves Thread:

                            @Cobalt said in MU Peeves Thread:

                            (At fifteen I was convinced only 100% strict “proper” English was correct. At fifteen I was an asshole.)

                            Did you have a copy of “Eats, Shoots and Leaves” with the panda stickers in the back to put on typos? I had a copy of “Eats, Shoots and Leaves” with the panda stickers in the back to put on typos.

                            I had a copy of the book, and my parents still make comments and jokes about my grammar strictness, in the way that parents do when they don’t know you’ve outgrown a part of your childhood because you now understand the classist and racist nature of strict grammar adherence wait where are you going I’m not done with explaining–

                            she/her | playlist

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                              GF @Roz
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                              @Roz Your wording of your post made me notice that no one in this thread has said “grammar Nazi” and that makes me very happy.

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                              • RozR
                                Roz @GF
                                last edited by

                                @GF Yeah, I also grew out of that one years back.

                                she/her | playlist

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                                • saoS
                                  sao
                                  last edited by

                                  I doubt anyone who types out dialect is doing it because they intend to be annoying, they’re just succeeding at being annoying.

                                  let it be a challenge to you

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                                  • GashlycrumbG
                                    Gashlycrumb
                                    last edited by

                                    When people type ‘viscous’ when they mean ‘vicious’ I find it interferes with my immersion.

                                    "This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard!"
                                    – A. Bertram Chandler

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                                      Roadspike @Gashlycrumb
                                      last edited by

                                      @Gashlycrumb But it’s much easier to immerse yourself in something viscous than something vicious.

                                      Formerly known as Seraphim73 (he/him)

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                                      • GashlycrumbG
                                        Gashlycrumb @Roadspike
                                        last edited by

                                        @Roadspike This is the problem with the viscous attacks. I’m immersed, in the wrong way.

                                        "This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard!"
                                        – A. Bertram Chandler

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                                        • PavelP
                                          Pavel @Gashlycrumb
                                          last edited by

                                          @Gashlycrumb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Molasses_Flood

                                          He/Him. Opinions and views are solely my own unless specifically stated otherwise.
                                          BE AN ADULT

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                                            Corinthian @Pavel
                                            last edited by

                                            @Pavel So my wife told me about her worst day at work ever, when a young kid came into the ER with constipation, and the doc ordered a milk and molasses enema.

                                            Apparently it was like that scene from Daddy Daycare. You know the one.

                                            And yes, I created an account just to make this comment.

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