Brand MU Day
    • Categories
    • Recent
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Users
    • Groups
    • Register
    • Login

    Consensus on Roster vs OC vs Mix

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Game Gab
    34 Posts 16 Posters 1.5k Views
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • MisterBoringM
      MisterBoring
      last edited by

      I sort of want to see a game that daringly chooses to eschew both rosters and OCs and go for a new alternative: purely random generation.

      The character sheet and background are generated at random. There would be some level of staff review to ensure that the sheet and background made sense, but other than that it’s push a button and off to the races.

      While I have seen plenty of games with random sheet generation, I can’t say I’ve seen one do backgrounds and concepts at random.

      Proud Member of the Pro-Mummy Alliance

      GashlycrumbG 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • GashlycrumbG
        Gashlycrumb @MisterBoring
        last edited by

        @MisterBoring I’m down with it. That would work really well for my ‘Call of Cthulhu on a Cruise Ship’ idea…

        "This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard!"
        – A. Bertram Chandler

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • RaistlinR
          Raistlin
          last edited by

          I never thought I’d be interested in playing a rostered OC character, but a little while ago, I joined a game where I wasn’t quite grasping the theme. I felt a bit nervous about creating my own character, but they had several roster slots for original characters that players could take over. These were simple, low-level, everyday-type characters that allowed me to jump right into the roleplay. It helped me immerse myself in the game, understand the theme, and build up the confidence to eventually create my own character. I thought it worked really well.

          GashlycrumbG 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
          • GashlycrumbG
            Gashlycrumb @Raistlin
            last edited by Gashlycrumb

            @Raistlin I think a lot of games could benefit from having something like that. Grab-and-go PCs.

            I dunno if it comes up now, but people used to say that an effort-intensive process to create an OC or claim a roster would improve player-retention – the player had to be invested in the game to do all that.

            My experience was that in reality, people are just as likely to drop the game after doing five hours of work chargenning as those who spent twenty minutes, and the real key to getting them to connect again is to get them into a fun scene as soon as you possibly can. Ask B.F. Skinner about it.

            "This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard!"
            – A. Bertram Chandler

            PavelP 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
            • PavelP
              Pavel @Gashlycrumb
              last edited by

              @Gashlycrumb said in Consensus on Roster vs OC vs Mix:

              Ask B.F. Skinner about it.

              He’ll just go on, and on, and on, and on about pigeons…

              He/Him. Opinions and views are solely my own unless specifically stated otherwise.
              BE AN ADULT

              GashlycrumbG S 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 1
              • GashlycrumbG
                Gashlycrumb @Pavel
                last edited by

                @Pavel Naw, he’d just take three minutes to train a pigeon to kick your ass.

                "This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard!"
                – A. Bertram Chandler

                PavelP 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • PavelP
                  Pavel @Gashlycrumb
                  last edited by

                  @Gashlycrumb a sign that says warning on it is on a pole

                  He/Him. Opinions and views are solely my own unless specifically stated otherwise.
                  BE AN ADULT

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • S
                    STD @Pavel
                    last edited by

                    @Pavel said in Consensus on Roster vs OC vs Mix:

                    @Gashlycrumb said in Consensus on Roster vs OC vs Mix:

                    Ask B.F. Skinner about it.

                    He’ll just go on, and on, and on, and on about pigeons…

                    In college, my dad attended a guest lecture by Skinner in which he talked about Behaviorism. At the end he did a demonstration with one of the trained pigeons.

                    It didn’t perform as it was trained.

                    Skinner was clearly annoyed and embarrassed. My dad thought it was one of the funniest things he’d ever seen.

                    Even in psychology the old adage applies: never work with children or animals.

                    GashlycrumbG 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                    • GashlycrumbG
                      Gashlycrumb @STD
                      last edited by Gashlycrumb

                      @STD One of my favourite stories about this is the one where students learning about Skinner’s work in a lecture class applied it to the professor. Their reenforcer was to look attentive. It didn’t take them very long to have the professor consistently lecture from the location the students had chosen and in a pose they’d chosen. The funny bit is that the professor was enormously pissed off when they told him they’d done this, rather than delighted.

                      When I was young and hot I used to shape behavior in aquaintances, like the foul-tempered bus driver on the route I had to take, by smiling at them.

                      Edited to add: Karen Pryor is much more fun to read than Skinner. Don’t Shoot the Dog is a dumb title, but it’s a great book. The thing where you do clickerr-training on other humans as a parlour game is hilarious fun. And the whole business is good for your head, because you end up having to constatantly look for and attend to behaviors you want, you’re always focused on positive shit.

                      "This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard!"
                      – A. Bertram Chandler

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                      • GashlycrumbG
                        Gashlycrumb @MisterBoring
                        last edited by

                        @MisterBoring said in Consensus on Roster vs OC vs Mix:

                        I sort of want to see a game that daringly chooses to eschew both rosters and OCs and go for a new alternative: purely random generation.

                        I am now imagining a web-based chargen where it’s all fill-in-the-blank or pick-one,. Starts off with a concept ala’ Chaosium CoC, ‘Professor’, ‘Dilettante’ which gives you the basic sheet, you have points to customise with. But any place you didn’t pick/didn’t fill in the blanks/left points unassigned it fills in randomly.

                        "This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard!"
                        – A. Bertram Chandler

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • MisterBoringM
                          MisterBoring
                          last edited by

                          I had another thought about this while eating ice cream today.

                          I think games with roster characters should have a way to filter the roster to show only available characters that have not been played yet. This would give some people who are unwilling to step into another person’s RP shoes a better view of what’s out there that they can just run with.

                          Proud Member of the Pro-Mummy Alliance

                          CoinC 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 4
                          • CoinC
                            Coin @MisterBoring
                            last edited by

                            @MisterBoring said in Consensus on Roster vs OC vs Mix:

                            I had another thought about this while eating ice cream today.

                            I think games with roster characters should have a way to filter the roster to show only available characters that have not been played yet. This would give some people who are unwilling to step into another person’s RP shoes a better view of what’s out there that they can just run with.

                            On Ares games, they just have a tag that says ‘previously played’.

                            In Occam I trust.

                            MisterBoringM 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                            • MisterBoringM
                              MisterBoring @Coin
                              last edited by

                              @Coin I was not aware of that. Definitely something to look at next time I peruse Ares games.

                              Proud Member of the Pro-Mummy Alliance

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • First post
                                Last post