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Suspected Superhero Creeping Or Something
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From our sister site MSB (
), specifically Runescryer:Oh, look. It’s this jerk again…
No, not me; I’m an entirely different jerk. But I digress…
Looks like everyone’s favorite creeper might be back among us after a nice absence. No character names, since receipts are still being collected, and not naming the game while they do their own ongoing investigation.
Just a heads up that several people reviewing logs are having deja vu all over again and noticing behaviors and patterns matching DWOPP’s MO.
Love bombing and constant spending of “fake IC money” to be the most perfect dream come true guy ever. Paying for cars, clothing, college tuition
Super protective of his target females around other males. Willing to fight or create dissent to push other males away
Gaslights female players who dislike his IC advances as problematic IC and OOC
Again, not sharing character names yet and giving the game staff a chance to work things out internally. Think of this as the smoke detector going off; time to be aware and see if there is a fire.So, a general heads up to the community and to Staffers to be aware on their own games of a possible DWOPP return.
[Snackness here…I would add ‘weird obsession with impregnating your character’ as another warning sign.]
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His biggest tells:
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Public meltdowns, flouncing from public chat
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Relationship-trapping/isolating/wanting to impregnate female PCs
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Often overstated about his life, but with varying details. Sometimes he has teenagers, and he will offer drama about them as excuses for him disappearing. Often claims to be a disabled vet.
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Disappears from scenes without a word when he gets bored and then will come at you days later with a dramatic story and expect you to comfort him
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He is very good at making women feel comfortable, ironically. He’s a good listener, or at least pretends to be, and is very good at developing ooc rapport. That’s what makes him so insidious.
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Could he pay for my college tuition if I make a hot enough female character?
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Question: Have you alerted staff on the game in question?
Any pronouns. Come to Chincoteague. We have ponies. http://keys.aresmush.com
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@Pavel I have student loan debt and am willing to be a virtual sugar baby so let me know if this works.
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@L-B-Heuschkel said in DWOPP-spotting:
Question: Have you alerted staff on the game in question?
This is a cross-post from MSB, @Snackness isn’t the original poster so you’d have to ask over there for more details on this particular case.
He/Him. Opinions and views are solely my own unless specifically stated otherwise.
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@Pavel Ah, sorry. Appreciate the heads up anyhow. This guy is somebody no one needs on their game.
Any pronouns. Come to Chincoteague. We have ponies. http://keys.aresmush.com
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@L-B-Heuschkel Yeah, I’m just the signal booster. The thread is public on MSB if you want to ask on there. I can’t because I’m banned
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@Snackness It might help if you put the copied post portion in a quote thing?
Like this
For clarity.
If you just copy it and start with one > and then paste it’ll fill in the > symbols for subsequent paragraphs.
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@Roz Oh good, I was trying to figure out how to do that.
And it is done!
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Hello.
First, thanks to @Snackness for helping spread the word.
To answer @L-B-Heuschkel; yes. Staff on the game in question have been made aware and are conducting their own investigation.
I know that the ‘trust the process’ line isn’t going to be all that comforting to a lot of people in light of everything that’s happened, but I’m giving the game a fair chance to work their process as well as the player in question a fair chance without smearing them with the DWOPP label. Receipts are being gathered and analyzed, and will be presented when there’s harder evidence than ‘I got a bad feeling here…’ All there are at the moment are behavioral patterns that match. Could be DWOPP, could be some other/new toxic player. Theno and I had a conversation on MUHaven last night with a newer MUSHer who liked the idea of a completely ‘no-holds barred’ game and didn’t see anything wrong in emotional manipulation of players. No accusations, just that IMO, the hobby tends to attract players of all sorts, good and bad.
Like I said in the post, this is just the smoke alarm going off. There could be a fire, there might not be. I just think it’s better for Staff and Players to be aware that DWOPP, or someone like them, might be back active again.
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@Runescryer Even if it’s not that creepy fuckface, it sounds like it’s a creepy fuckface and either way, needs dealing with.
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@eye8urcake said in DWOPP-spotting:
@Runescryer Even if it’s not that creepy fuckface, it sounds like it’s a creepy fuckface and either way, needs dealing with.
I think this is the more important point to focus on than actually finding DWOPP. Instead of trying to find out if a player is DWOPP, staff should be focused on verifying if a player has those tendencies and qualities, and taking action. It doesn’t matter if that person is DWOPP or not and they don’t have to fit the bill perfectly. There should be a line where when enough boxes are checked, they should be shown the exit.
DWOPP just fits the type of player that should not be welcomed in any game.
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There’s some A+ level flouncing from the dude in question on the MSB thread.
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Did some snooping.
The player banned was Lithium@MSB. Def not DWOPP or anything close to it. Asked around, too, and apparently the people he had issue with, one of them is the headstaffer for Elseverse (who actually DOES have DWOPP tendencies in how he tries to gaslight, manipulate, and love-bomb people) and Macha@MSB, who… well, it’s Macha.
Shady AF, if you ask me.
But the point is, maybe instead of crying wolf to the four winds, next time make sure the behavior is actually happening, too, because by all accounts, it wasn’t.
In Occam I trust.
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@Coin Uh, the Elseverse headwiz is nothing like you’re making him out to be.
Also glass houses and all.
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@foksthery said in DWOPP-spotting:
@Coin Uh, the Elseverse headwiz is nothing like you’re making him out to be.
Also glass houses and all.
Glass houses?
What exactly do you mean, pray tell. Are you insinuating I’m a gaslighting manipulator who guilt trips and love-bombs people?
If you’re gonna say it, say it.
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@Coin Everything I’ve ever seen and heard about and from you paints the picture of a petty, abusive narcissist edgelord.
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@foksthery said in DWOPP-spotting:
@Coin Everything I’ve ever seen and heard about and from you paints the picture of a petty, abusive narcissist edgelord.
Oh yeah?
From whom? Or is it again, just hearsay? Lord forbid I not get along with everyone. But hey, you have stories right? You’ve been given details?
Tell everyone how nasty I am.
