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Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo
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I’m not sure if anything has actually hit the game in terms of consequences, but it looks like 5-10 less chars are connected at most times.
Seems like Cujo is just very much This is done, move on. What consequences could actually be levied, if any? Obviously people are spreading the word. But are there really that many people that don’t know? Like - what’s the mood on the game? I don’t play there, so I don’t know the playerbase’s thoughts.
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@CuriousGamer I don’t think the picture was skeevy–it was very obvious from context what was going on–but thank you for removing the joke.
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@GF I’m watching things out of morbid curiosity. It’s like poking a dead thing with a stick.
@Warlander said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
@Pax Well said. Not least because newbies have to grind a LOOOOOOOOOOONG time to get a halfway decent character (mostly due to the whole clique let’s-all-nom-each-other tactics). This AoA DSS shit is even worse than D20 Star Wars.
Can confirm. I had help from friends whoinvited me to build my character, and loan me some half decent gear until I could buy my own. I saw a brand new player show up to one of my early scenes with only the starter gear you could get in chargen. Did not have a single successful attack roll the whole scene. Was never seen again.
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@SqeakyClean said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
with allowing underage Characters to exist.
wait.
wait
wait
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Could the underage characters have the amputation +kink?
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Let’s not do this one.
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@DarthSmegma said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
Could the underage characters have the amputation +kink?
Sounds like one of them potential TOS violations with the host server. Not that I am a lawyer or have ever seen a contract for hosting a mu server. Since someone was asking what could be done.
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@CuriousGamer said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
I’m not sure if anything has actually hit the game in terms of consequences, but it looks like 5-10 less chars are connected at most times.
You shouldn’t expect any massive consequences. Life is incredibly unfair and the cycle of abuse is extremely difficult to break. Should the game wither away, it will likely happen over a lengthy period of time. Immediate repercussions are unlikely to occur.
I haven’t been on in a few days, but if I had to guess, the majority of the RP that is happening on the grid is driven by/related to those mentioned in this post and their sycophant followers. It’s been this way for a little while now.
Those that choose to play there without being part of the primary cliques may be able to continue to ignore the transgressions of the administration for some time. It’s hard to let go if you’ve been playing there for years. That said, with Cujo’s frequent attempts to quell the situation with on-grid announcements, it’s going to be very hard to keep turning a blind eye to the division.
she/her
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It’s true.
Some of the players there are stuck in the mindset of ‘But we’re about to get 500 XP for free! We can’t leave now!’
Little do they know they can get 600 XP by playing Duolingo for like an hour, and they can learn Mandarin.
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@DarthSmegma For a second there you had me thinking that Cujo had some kind of ad revenue system!
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@DarthSmegma said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
Little do they know they can get 600 XP by playing Duolingo for like an hour, and they can learn Mandarin.
You can’t use the Duolingo XP to upgrade Charm: Seduce to 100 and force other players into extremely uncomfortable situations.
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@TooManyCharacter Maybe if you learn French?
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Hi everyone,
Wow, this is hard to write. I’ve probably written and deleted about five of these posts by now, and who knows if I’ll be brave enough to click send on this one. Anyway, way back up at the top there, I actually made a brief cameo in this thread as the girl who got a notoriously bad harasser banned for sending her porn. Not sure that’s ever something I had on my list of things to be known as, but here we are.
This might sound pretty ridiculous to you guys, but I actually cried when he got banned. Not because I regretted it, but because I hate causing people pain. Surely, I thought, it must’ve been something I said that made him do it. I led him on, or made him think it was something I’d find funny or hot. Surely, I thought, it was my fault.
I know, I know. But I reported him knowing that, if I didn’t, he’d do it to someone else. And it was dealt with swiftly.
I’ve spoken to Zephyr about this recently, and while I didn’t want to weigh in on this discourse in the slightest (who needs that chaos in their life lol), I felt it was necessary to say, in no uncertain terms, that I believe her, and I believe it was her that had my back in that moment. Furthermore, I believe everyone who’s shared their experiences. It all breaks my heart, at the end of the day. It breaks my heart because I’ve had good experiences with just about everybody on Age of Alliances. I’ve told good stories with people. Had a lot of laughs, too.
I find myself wishing for a lot of things. I wish, maybe, I’d had tougher conversations with people around me. I wish this all had been handled differently. I wish I could still play the stupid Star Wars game without being reminded of all this, but I’m not sure if that’s possible any more. I’m not sure what I want to do. But I am sure that I’m disappointed.
For those of you who have shared your experiences, just know that you have all of my love and support.
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@Noraaa said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
Surely, I thought, it must’ve been something I said that made him do it. I led him on, or made him think it was something I’d find funny or hot. Surely, I thought, it was my fault.
No, thank you. Everyone is responsible for their own actions. No one makes anyone else do anything. It is everyone’s personal responsibility to move forward in any interactions/relationship without offending the other person. There are many ways to progress with someone without jumping to something offensive.
But I appreciate your sharing, especially since it was obviously difficult for you, and I’m sure others do too.
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@Noraaa said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
This might sound pretty ridiculous to you guys, but I actually cried when he got banned. Not because I regretted it, but because I hate causing people pain.
Not at all. I’ve never cried over my actions leading to an abuser being punished, but I have felt miserably guilty each time. In hindsight, I think that was intentional on my abusers’ part: they deliberately made me feel an emotional connection to them so I’d be conflicted, feel disloyal, feel guilty, about causing them distress. That doesn’t sound like exactly what you’re going through and I don’t mean to suggest that your empathy is a contrivance on your abuser’s part; I just mean, I know how you feel even if I got there from a different direction.
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@CuriousGamer said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
I’m not sure if anything has actually hit the game in terms of consequences, but it looks like 5-10 less chars are connected at most times.
Seems like Cujo is just very much This is done, move on. What consequences could actually be levied, if any? Obviously people are spreading the word. But are there really that many people that don’t know? Like - what’s the mood on the game? I don’t play there, so I don’t know the playerbase’s thoughts.
A pretty decent number of players seem to be in the process of leaving, just doing it on their own terms. Star Wars MUSH appears to be where they’re going, it’s had a huge spike in logins.
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@SpilledBeanz Ah, FFG… foiled by not exiting yet!
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@Noraaa It’s easy to look back after the fact and say - that person was abusive. However you have to remember some of these people are so damn good at being charismatic.
People like this tend to excel in isolating others into being isolated or part of an isolated group. If you look in from the outside you notice that while they might be supportive they are actually negative. They know how to say the right things.
From negging to gaslighting to other tricks of the trade. They often find things that you can identify with, interests, traits, rp things. To try to get a latch into your world.
A real mu* friend does not:
- Try to dictate or control who you do or dont rp with (They let you make your own decisions)
- Encourage bad behavior (I’ve been victim of this before, done dumb things looking back was like - why did I ever do that?)
- Try to get you to actively work against someone else not in the loop/not for an RP thing
- Invite you to a game where your presence will give them an ‘up’ in that game
- Go to discord to particularly shit-talk people. There’s warning people, like this person I’ve heard is troublesome. This might be DWOPP, etc. Then there’s shit-talking. This person likes TS, blah blah blah.
- This person is Cujo or Hadrix - they are not your friend.
- Make weird sex comments that are unprompted. No jokes, no unwarranted comments or touches. There is just no need for this behavior in this day and age. OOC communication is key with any kind of thing. Maybe someone isn’t interested in that kind of attention? - Easy fix, a quick page/PM before you make any comments or such goes a long way to not make the person feel weird.
What a good mu* friend WILL do:
- Help you with your char, get into rp, etc.
- Not put you or anyone else down
- Not be a whirlwind of toxic negativity all the time.
- Encourage positive ideas, creativity
- Work with you to create stories, ideas
- Works to bring people/rp groups together instead of creating tight cliques
- Encourages others to play with people they find good roleplayers and enjoy playing with.
Anyways, that’s my advice/rant. The manipulators are very good at their game usually, and make you feel bad. Try to make you not turn them in. Turning people in is never your fault. If you show a log, and people come to their own conclusions - it’s their behavior that they got in trouble for. Nothing on you. They have the mindset of - I wouldn’t have gotten in trouble if no one turned me in!
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@CuriousGamer said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
Seems like Cujo is just very much This is done, move on.
‘The lying, repeatedly-banned, horrible people talking about the repeated and rampant sexual harassment on this game are lying about everything you’ve personally witnessed or heard about concerning the repeated and rampant sexual harassment on this game. I’m not lying, promise!’
As said by… pretty much every crooked authority figure when word of their dealings got out. We’ll see who does their research and discovers Cujo is, in fact, lying.
@TooManyCharacter said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
Those that choose to play there without being part of the primary cliques may be able to continue to ignore the transgressions of the administration for some time. It’s hard to let go if you’ve been playing there for years. That said, with Cujo’s frequent attempts to quell the situation with on-grid announcements, it’s going to be very hard to keep turning a blind eye to the division.
A lot of non-Aryn-clique characters are used to avoiding staff and their troublemaking ways, so they might not know anything aside from some players being taken out of action. If they seriously look, though, they might realize that none of them was even close to the day count to be removed. It’s a subtle detail, though, especially if you weren’t playing with them.
Cujo does control the official narrative there, which is where a lot of people are getting their information if they’re not reading this thread. Right now he’s in full damage control mode. Don’t want people to leave the game and drop the WHO count without having the courtesy to get banned first, after all!
@SpilledBeanz said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:
A pretty decent number of players seem to be in the process of leaving, just doing it on their own terms. Star Wars MUSH appears to be where they’re going, it’s had a huge spike in logins.
So some folks are looking into what happened, and voting with their feet. Good on them!
I don’t know if SW1 is an improvement, but it likely can’t be any worse than AoA, especially if there have been some staff overturns in the last decade or so.
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@TooManyCharacter Ayup. Until there’s a better game to go to, that is fun and playable and GMed and all that jazz, people are going to keep playing.
Most players on any given MUSH are only marginally attached. It’s a casual thing. They like to log in and have fun. It’s not a lifestyle thing.
You’re not going to move those people off of a MUSH over “drama” unless you offer them something they can do to fill that gap.
