MU Peeves Thread

bear_necessities

@Pavel See usually I’d agree with you but in this case I’m going to point towards their own policy which states in big bold letters:

Ares Handles
I am not requiring players link their Ares handles. Everyone gets a fair shot here. However, being intentionally misleading about your identity to interact with someone who you know doesn’t want to interact with you falls under fuckery and that is a bannable offense.

So if they want to be intentionally misleading about their identity, that’s fine but I don’t want to interact with her and she’s on more than just BMD.

Pavel

@bear_necessities said in MU Peeves Thread:

So if they want to be intentionally misleading about their identity, that’s fine but I don’t want to interact with her and she’s on more than just BMD.

Hell, I don’t care that the question was asked, just pointing out the obvious pitfalls. Have at it, crazy kids.

bear_necessities

@Pavel At least if she doesn’t respond it’ll be real telling

Coin

That’s 100% Tek, yah.

Pavel

@bear_necessities True.

Technically fuckery isn’t against the rules here; otherwise, I’d be right out. So this is, as they say, a civil matter.

Cobalt

@bear_necessities Huh. Normally, I’m pretty good at picking up on patterns of behavior (typing, speech, etc) to figure out who people are… but I didn’t see that one coming.

CuriousGamer

Maybe a noob question here, but who is Tek?

Coin

@CuriousGamer said in MU Peeves Thread:

Maybe a noob question here, but who is Tek?

The inspiration for my signature.

The actual details are too long for me to go into right now but I’m sure someone will fill you in.

Pavel

@Coin said in MU Peeves Thread:

@CuriousGamer said in MU Peeves Thread:

Maybe a noob question here, but who is Tek?

The inspiration for my signature.

The actual details are too long for me to go into right now but I’m sure someone will fill you in.

They were one of the names I glanced over at The Other Place on the way to better prey, so I’ll definitely need the story time too.

Testament

AFAIK, @foksthery is Tek. Why do I know this? Because I defended them believing it was not Tek. More the shame on me for that.

I am pointedly not getting involved in this one, and stating this much, having learned my lesson.

My only observation is that I don’t believe Tek has done anything lately to be brought up? Unless I’m mistaken on that one. Beyond people having the same axe to grind against her as the last time she was brought up. Which is their right to have and be it far from me to judge otherwise.

But I’d rather not the forum suddenly start accusing a new name handles of being someone else’s sock-puppet without proof of that. Saying that as someone that was already fooled once already.

If that person wants to come out and say who they, that’s on them.

KarmaBum

@CuriousGamer This is their handle info on Ares.

They’re not like a marquee crazy person to my knowledge, but definitely someone I prefer to avoid. My run-in with them on SR was low-key, but left a bad taste in my mouth.

The tl;dr is that she wasn’t getting her way. She wanted to have ALL THE PLOT, but all she ever seemed interested in RPing was how super-Jewish her character was (to the point that the game was like walking on eggshells if anyone mentioned Santa Claus where she could read it, 'cause were definitely gonna get a lecture) and the occasional text-scene. She lashed out at someone who did not deserve her ire, called them a bunch of names that were absolutely not true, argued with us about what she thought was happening, refused to play nice, and got @bear_necessities to ban her.

Roz

@CuriousGamer Mostly just someone some people don’t care for. There was a bit of drama many months ago re: identities and such when she posted some criticism about a game she’d been removed from while pretending to be someone else.

@Testament said in MU Peeves Thread:

AFAIK, @foksthery is Tek. Why do I know this? Because I defended them believing it was not Tek. More the shame on me for that.

I am pointedly not getting involved in this one, and stating this much, having learned my lesson.

Your post is not really “not getting involved.”

Narson

@Pavel said in MU Peeves Thread:

@bear_necessities True.

Technically fuckery isn’t against the rules here; otherwise, I’d be right out. So this is, as they say, a civil matter.

Ecumenical matter

Testament

@Roz By ‘getting involved’ I’m not defending people like that again. People can hang themselves with their own rope. Or not, their choice.

Fine, I involved myself to make a comment. But I’m sure as hell not sticking my neck out for someone I thought I knew.

Pavel

@Narson said in MU Peeves Thread:

@Pavel said in MU Peeves Thread:

@bear_necessities True.

Technically fuckery isn’t against the rules here; otherwise, I’d be right out. So this is, as they say, a civil matter.

church police

bear_necessities

@Testament said in MU Peeves Thread:

My only observation is that I don’t believe Tek has done anything lately to be brought up? Unless I’m mistaken on that one. Beyond people having the same axe to grind against her as the last time she was brought up. Which is their right to have and be it far from me to judge otherwise.
But I’d rather not the forum suddenly start accusing a new name handles of being someone else’s sock-puppet without proof of that. Saying that as someone that was already fooled once already.

The posing style is an exact replica of Tek, along with the more classic characteristics and usage of PBs. It’s not out of the realm of possibility that someone who has ALREADY LIED ABOUT WHO THEY ARE would lie again, especially when @foksthery has not been online since September 2022 and @Bessarion was created January 2023.

But I’m not accusing. I’m asking. @Bessarion are you Tek?

ETA: I absolutely have an axe to grind after she repeatedly lied about a good friend of mine, called them a gaslighter and other nonsense, and then blew the fuck up at me when I asked her to just not interact with this person.

Narson

@Testament

@Testament said in MU Peeves Thread:

@Roz By ‘getting involved’ I’m not defending people like that again. People can hang themselves with their own rope. Or not, their choice.

Fine, I involved myself to make a comment. But I’m sure as hell not sticking my neck out for someone I thought I knew.

I think people generally, if they suspect someone is someone with a poor previous reputation, are happy to let it slide and accept the polite fiction if that person has managed to change their behaviour and isn’t repeating those same behaviours that have, in the past, led them down a bad route. A person who did that, who has seemingly taken on board the criticism and lives an OK even if not perfect existence within the community, will get that polite fiction upheld because their action resolves the previous dispute - they have accepted they did a bad and sought to reform. Without that resolution or seeming acceptance of the person that they did a bad and need to be different, the community continues to correctly display that concern. At least, that’s my take on it.

sao

@Narson yes. Definitely “I lied abt who I was and it didn’t work so I’m going to just do exactly the same behavior again” would not qualify as enough for a fresh start.

Pavel

Bessarion

I wasn’t going to reply, but I also don’t want to be spun up into another forum bogeyman.

I wasn’t lying about who I was. I was existing anonymously. There is a difference. Lying is what I did when I was dysregulated, reactive, and poorly medicated six months ago. I chose a new handle when I started my new game because I wanted to run a great game and prove that I’ve done the work and that I’m actually working on the behaviors that have hurt people and made them uncomfortable in the past without people assuming the worst of me. I think anyone on that game will be able to say that my behavior and gamerunning style speak for themselves.

I am not denying most of what you folks have said. You had interacted with me during some times when I had poor emotional regulation, improper medication, bad ideas about what made good RP, and my trauma and anxiety (yes, I am Jewish, and I have had to deal with Christmas-related trauma and I am now aware of how to deal with that) were activating all over the place and splashing onto those around me. I’m not going to get into the specifics of how and why I was behaving the way I was on SR because it really doesn’t matter, but I am not proud of the way I behaved back then, and I am not proud of the way I behaved in September.

I wasn’t seeking any of you out and lying about who I was to get close to you. I wasn’t going out of my way to interact with any of you. I was minding my own business. Running my game. Tried to join Shattered to play with some of my friends who were there. If I interacted with any of you, it was peripherally and neutrally in a public scene. I wasn’t bothering any of you, and believe me, those of you who don’t like me? I want to interact with you as little as you want to interact with me.

You all said to do better. So I got help and I was doing better. I only joined this forum to promote my game, against my better judgment. I never should have engaged or posted at all beyond my game ad. That’s on me. I guess I have a distinctive writing style.

All I wanted to do was run my dumb little worm zombie game and play magic flying ponies with my friends and avoid people with whom I had bad blood. I actually have mended a lot of fences over on my game and it’s been really good for me and has given me a lot of perspective.

@farfalla was right. None of you are obligated to be my learning experience. That’s why I was doing my own thing and trying to let my work and behavior speak for me.

Other people make new handles or choose not to link for various reasons, including people who are legitimate bad actors. I think I understand how this must look, given the trauma that all of us have with fuckery in this hobby. I’m not denying that I have caused harm, but I am not a bad actor. I am someone whose mental illness has become other people’s problems in the past, which was not okay and I have been learning the skills to make sure that doesn’t happen again in any of my social interactions, online or off. I am also someone who you guys find annoying. Maybe I got a little excited and chatty on channel sometimes. I am still learning how much is okay and how much is annoying. That’s something I still need to work on, and I am actively learning how to manage that. As an autistic woman who didn’t get diagnosed until her thirties, there’s a lot of things I am still working on.

I own my behavior and I think the work that I’ve done on 6ix Remains and wherever else is showing that I am making a good faith effort to not be the kind of person I don’t want to be.

So if you are on my game and want to leave, that’s fine. I am not bothering any of you, other than posting in the same threads as you on this forum. I’d appreciate if you’d do me the same courtesy of leaving me alone as well, like I was trying very hard to do for you folks.