Happy Pride Month, everyone!

I woke up this morning a wee bit sad as I had to close a tab open to MSB on my phone, and reminded myself:

The forum was never the community. It was just where the community agreed to hang out. It could have been Reddit or Discord or a MUSH but - for a few years - it was the MSB forum.

If WORA was ever a thing, it is here now. The spirit of open, lively debate is here.

What we left behind are admin who admit candidly that they wanted us off their forum, so we are gone.

The people left behind on Derp’s forum are a separate community.

People can decide where they would like to belong. (Except for those of us who were banned but I also think that just reinforces what most of us had already chosen.)

I am happy to be part of this community. 🥰

@GF said in Bannings:

At some point, it has to become a vibes-based decision.

Honestly? At every point. Even looking down the barrel of logs and screenshots, you’re still gonna have to make a decision based on your instincts.

I’m not sure people grasp how much even the most flippant of us wind up agonizing over these decisions sometimes. “I don’t want to make a big deal out of this” is probably the most common phrase people say to me when they want to put someone on my radar, and that’s sort of a sad state of affairs. Even on GH, which was a hot mess, we only ever got a handful of actual complaints about behavior from people; most people who are getting harassed just leave rather than go through the whole process of reporting someone.

The only false report I’ve ever gotten on any game, to my knowledge, was from Ruiz. Who went right for the throat with a job to complain about the person it turned out she was harassing. Neither player got banned over it, though the other player eventually quit.

^ See above re: wrong way on a decision before. I should’ve banned Ruiz right then (or at least shortly afterward when her creepiness started to twig @bear_necessities), but no one had receipts and it felt somehow wrong to ban someone just because my co-admin thought they were creepy.

Which is just the dumbest rationale I’ve ever used, and it embarrasses me to this day.

tl;dr - be a good admin and swing the ban-hammer freely till you achieve the desired PEACE & QUIET

I forgot this thread was here. I stand by my “let Derp’s forum lie” mentality, but also…

Derp has been completely honest about why certain bans were lifted and others weren’t: He doesn’t like us.

Which is completely fair. I don’t like him, either.
When he was made admin, I had every intention of just bouncing. But I realize now that I fucking care about this community, and he doesn’t, so I’m glad I came back.

I don’t expect to ever be unbanned there. Derp can’t handle people speaking truth to him, especially women.

The community that was WORA - that Arkandel handed over to Ganymede - isn’t fractured. It’s right fucking here.

WORA has never been an immutable line in the sand. It’s always a party that’s popped up at someone’s house 'cause their parents were out of town.

When Nymeria threatened copyright infringement and we had to flee off Proboards (or whatever that was), the community moved to a new location. This is the same thing: Ganymede torched our old neighborhood and gave the keys to Derp, so we just moved on.

It’s really hard to explain how much of this is because… honestly… Derp is such a mansplainy little turd, that it is hard to swallow that he “wins.” He and Ganymede essentially have the keys to our shared history. And it hurts to think of losing that (for the 4th time?) because of this narrow-minded little man who doesn’t have the common decency to yield to the will of the community he was supposed to be entrusted to oversee.

Derp should have done the right thing and stepped aside when it became obvious how upset so many of us were.

Ganymede should have done the right thing and asked him to step aside when it became obvious how upset so many of us were.

The misplaced trust in Ganymede over the years compiled by the smug crowing imagined in the background by that tiresome manchild…

It still stings.

So that’s why I’m still reading, even though I know I shouldn’t. I’ll grow out of it soon.

They won’t.

@Warma-Sheen said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

@Pavel said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

I understand the ‘must have proof’ mindset, though. Sometimes (rarely, but still) bitches do lie. After all, this board was founded after people were falsely accused of something and punished without any sort of transparent investigation.

Yep.

Sometimes people lie.

Please show me the receipts where people have lied about being harassed. If this is such a prevalent problem, you should have no trouble producing them.

We lost our CKCS recently. So now we have 1 & 1/4 Boston Terriers.

@Cobalt lordy, just when it feels like it can’t go any lower

Just from my own past experience? Don’t give away your DB. Don’t let someone take it over. We did that with GH, and I regret that decision big-time. Stuff only got worse, and - even though I publicly walked away - there’s still a sense of responsibility. And people who still think I was responsible for shit that I had no control over.

If they love it so much, let them make an homage.

LOLOL and Gany banned us all to protect this nasty weirdo

this hobby, man

@Cobalt just jumping on the bandwagon.

Derp’s knee-jerk assumption was that YOU are the bad actor in this scenario, and everyone agreed - right up until you walked into the room, when suddenly they realized they weren’t just talking about someone who couldn’t defend themselves. Then Ghost and Macha did their frantic back-pedaling, and Derp of course ignored the fire he just started.

They’re not there for discussion. They have BANNED everyone who actually wants to discuss things.

The one where I first Impressed a dragon on PernMUSH in 1997.

The ones where @tsar and I were in jail together.

The one where @tsar burned down a bar with our characters still inside it.

The one where people just kept eating all the cannabis gummies, like you’re supposed to eat an entire bag.

The one where the combat code was broken on GH and the enemies just wouldn’t die!!!

The one where @Pyrephox HAD THE DRUGS and tased my character.

The one on the same game where we just kept running in the stairwell FOR EV ER because of how the dice were rolling.

The one where the bomb went off at the fancy party on LA2043.

@Faraday said in AI In Poses:

can’t keep the details of Evelyn’s backstory straight, forgets that she has a fan in her hand from one pose to the next, doesn’t take into account how the scene she had last month would affect her dealings with Edward, etc. And heaven help you with theme consistency if the RP is happening in an original or lesser-known setting.

i have been an ai the entire time, guys

that’s why i do all these things

It reads to me like someone probably tipped Ada off to who Warma was, and they were just looking for an excuse to ban them and found one in this exchange.

@Superbia no worries, I didn’t read it as dismissive at all. you’re good

@Superbia said in Aegis Company Discussion:

@bear_necessities I’m unfortunately not familiar with Tek’s history and only know inkling through AresMUSH games that we’ve played on before.

I will just note that I did not know at the time that I was playing with the person going by Inkling that there was even a rumor that they were Tek, so my opinion formed completely independently of this.

I did not have a good experience playing with this person. They didn’t communicate well OOC, seemed to bleed IC/OOC, and ultimately left me with a sense that they were dishonest.

YMMV.

@Jumpscare The game-owner was Tek with a new handle on. The game went under a few weeks after they were outed for lying to everyone.

• Are you Tek? https://brandmu.day/topic/53/mu-peeves-thread/1490?_=1760278262487
• “I wasn’t lying; I just wasn’t telling the truth.” https://brandmu.day/topic/53/mu-peeves-thread/1512?_=1760278262489

@MisterBoring I don’t actually know anything about Monster Hunters, but - based on the name - that’s probably a fair assumption.

Most of the material is focused on the mechanics of forstalls, weapons, monster abilities, hunting grounds, etc. And the whole thing came out of episodic YT content that was basically a guy describing a Monster of the Week.

There’s more to the world when you get into the goals of different factions, but the TTRPG is very much designed around groups going out and hunting monsters.

If a person was trying to set up a western sandbox, I wouldn’t recommend this IP at all. But if a person was interested in having focused or episodic adventures, this is a great place to start.

@MisterBoring said in Missed Settings:

Wild West microcosm in a dome floating in space, psychic powers, secret alien schemes…

This doesn’t excite me the same way. I love Dark City. I love cowboys. I don’t love them combined. But it’s a “different strokes for different folks” situation.

A Dark City game would be dope, though.

@Gashlycrumb said in Missed Settings:

I wonder if the Wild Imaginary West set says anything about the -isms.

No, it doesn’t really address that at all, but instead rewrites history from 1876 forward, giving you the United States and the Uncivilized West. The implication is that things are kind of as they would be/have always been, but even the map is a little different.

The over-arching conflict is between the East (steam) vs West (electricity), peppered by Faction conflict, like the US Railroad has a lot of economic power, the Tulos Mob runs crime, etc.

The Frontier Conservation Society has a brief mention of working with Native Americans:

The Frontier Conservation Society aims to preserve nature, both its fauna and flora. While many at this time don’t believe extinction of a species is possible, Charles Darwin helped some to see that the natural competition of things can lead to the complete loss of anything. The Frontier Conservation Society was born from a group of biologists studying the West. During their travels, they especially learned from the Native Americans how to rely on the land and coexist with its creatures.

And there’s one NPC mentioned that’s half-Native American, and it’s commented that “most of the European immigrants saw him as a Native, and most of the Natives saw him as a European immigrant.”

But there’s nothing specifically addressing social issues at the time.

My take is that the Uncivilized West is a place for everyone, from all walks of life, as long as you have the mettle to survive; they have real monsters to worry about, so they don’t have time to worry about skin-color or religious views, but that these notions still exist, especially in the East.

@Roadspike said in Missed Settings:

@KarmaBum If you like FS3, I do happen to have the stats I put together from The Network’s Western series that y’all could use as a starting point.

Appreciated, but I don’t have the spoons to make fun for other people right now.

@Gashlycrumb might want this, though.

@Gashlycrumb Yep. We started watching circa lockdown, and I kept thinking… this would make a great RPG setting. So we backed the kickstarter.

The guide is mostly mechanics that seems fun for a TTRPG, but also has some good setting information about various factions, and tons of monster info.

I would play in this world, sort of tongue-in-cheek but with real peril out there! I just don’t have it in me to set up another game right now.

It’s someone else’s turn.