@Pavel Ahh, but ideas come easier when you know who wants to be involved. ‘Who wants to have a scene at X’ might make people who don’t want to go to X just never say anything.

I don’t put the onus on others – I just wait and see who I’m working with before figuring out what to do.

The Livia List, beacuse I’m back!

Current:
Ellie - RetroMux

Past:
Kate, Prism - City of Glass
Elise - The Network
Nettie Harcourt - Blood and Gold
Katherine - LAMush 2043
Faith & Silvia - City of Shadows.
Jehanne Mercier - Fear and Loathing
Lisa, Katherine - Reno
The Penitent (Penny) - HorrorMu v1
Judy - NOLA
Katherine - Fallcoast (barely played)
One of the Victoria Roths: The Reach (also barely played)
Evelyn/Zelda/Jutte/Maria/Others - Haunted Memories
Andriax - Dragonlance: Age of Mortals.
Kaylana - Dragonlance Mu*
Namira & Isadia - Ashirion: The Broken Sphere

@Snackness said in MU Peeves Thread:

@Pax Same. I’ve been in a nice juicy ‘I must really suck for some reason, no one wants to play with me’ spiral for a couple of years now going on that logic.

I get stuck in this kinda feeling regularly too. I try to remember that a lot of people probably do, and just try to ask but it’s hard – sometimes I personally get really nervous about paging people, get stuck with thoughts of ‘well if they wanted to talk to me/rp with me they’d reach out and do it so I shouldn’t bother them’ etc etc.

I’ve been trying to remind myself lately that I generally like it when people do randomly page me to chat, ask for rp, etc, so most people probably like it when I reach out to them too. I hope. And even if they say no, they can’t right now, whatever, it doesn’t actually matter that much. And maybe they feel better for being reached out to.

idk, this was meant to be me just typing ‘same’ but then I didn’t stop.

@Jennkryst said in MU* Wishlists:

And yeah, wanting to keep sheets secret from people you are at war with for whatever reason is like. Appropriate.

Meh. Do it anyway, show people everything. Any IC conflict I’ve had with other PCs has always been way better when there’s OOC comradery and communication backing it up. I have no interest in OOC antagonism with the actual player.

For me I think it depends on the reason for the house rules more than the rules themselves.

I don’t have an issue with people buying a lot of things at once, though I can agree with not really wanting people to do it in the middle of a scene.

I hang out in OOC rooms a lot because I just like chatting to people. It helps me feel some sense of community on the game, and I enjoy that? But yeah, sometimes they get weird.

I’d like a CoD game to stick around. They seem to be pretty rare these days, especially in the traditional default urban setting.

@Cobalt Come baaaack!

I like the idea of rebranding to CvC but it’ll never take – though I have seen PvP that really is about just beating the other player. OOC lies to convince a player to join a scene in a specific way ‘I’ll help you evade the authorities!’ only the then ICly set them up to get got.

I’ve had the ‘Hey I’d like to scene with you’ chat with someone I didn’t ICly get along with, get warned ‘Depending on how this goes, this could turn to violence’ and then when I agreed, extra people suddenly show up to help the other player out. Violence was a 100% guarantee, not a maybe, and it ended with my character dead and over out of seemingly nowhere.

That said, I really do enjoy going against other players sometimes, but like most forms of RP, it’s always been at its best when it really is a collaborative effort like other forms of RP. Discussions with the other parties, talking about what could or shouldn’t be attempted – sometimes you do want to surprise people so you might not mention everything, but sometimes with some chatter people will happily engage.

I don’t mind serious or permanent injury being done to my characters in the course of it either. Back in the days of Haunted Memories I had a mortal+ character built as a sort of ‘Hunter’ archetype, and one of my good friends needed to go away for a bit and volunteered to have his vamp be torpored by her to explain his absence. It drove so much RP as people looked for him and looked for her, and she ended up getting got but I had so much fun.

But I generally wouldn’t engage in serious PvP shenanigans with pure strangers anymore either. Some OOC communication beforehand needs to be done.

@Jennkryst said in MU* Wishlists:

I more mean, everyone is Very Invested in Brujah not being a bloodline of the Gangrel Clan and etc and so on. For more examples, see all the arguments from when oWoD was taken out behind the chemical shed and shot / when nWoD first came out.

It’s not Brujah as a bloodline it’s Bruja, it’s different darnit! Grumble grumble.

But yeah I know. They did kinda cook themselves a little bit in trying to migrate a fanbase by keeping some things named the same like Ventrue, Gangrel, Toreador bloodline etc.

@Pavel I do have a lot of problems with v5 but I sure do love the hunger dice system, I think that’s fun as.

@Jennkryst said in MU* Wishlists:

@Livia said in MU* Wishlists:

Well that’s suspicious.

But I’ll take this opportunity to pine for Vampire the Requiem once again. All the WoD games have returned to 20th Anniv. edition of everything.

People are too invested in THE METAPLOT… which also sort of happened with Requiem/nWoD. ‘I am part of this bloodline, let me name-drop the person from the book instead of seeing if we should alter stuff for game setting’.

Which, I mean, fair. I still think that the ideal WoD game should build out a wiki of the world as players submit new characters. If the game is in New York City, staff obviously have NYC history in mind. But do they know who is in charge in Philadelphia? The first character submitted from that area gets to canonize the lore from there, and then it gets integrated. Second player now has to deal with Philly being Carthian (because who else would riot in both celebration AND defeat?)

That, or somehow be on LegallyDistinctEarthlikeLocation, as written in Trans-Ally Katherine Applegate’s second-greatest work, Everworld.

Everyone is running 20th edition and ignoring V5’s metaplot entirely so I’m not convinced about anything to do with the metplot, harrumph harrumph.

I just wannt play some Chronicles of Darkness, preferably Requiem but honestly I’d play any of 'em.

Well that’s suspicious.

But I’ll take this opportunity to pine for Vampire the Requiem once again. All the WoD games have returned to 20th Anniv. edition of everything.

I always enjoyed people trying to destroy other players wiki pages as part of a flounce out. Like they don’t realise you can just restore a previous version of the page? idk. Happened a few times over the years at Haunted Memories as I recall.

I agree with all the comments on the OOC transparency, I think that’s the key. For all the issues the vampire sphere had on Fear and Loathing back in the day, it was a pretty PVP heavy space and it was run on a lot of transparency. I remember a ghoul doing some daytime snooping of my vampire’s haven to get back at me for something I did and they put the job in to spy on me, and staff just added me to the job and said ‘she’s made these rolls so she finds out this much, tell her what she learns’. And I did.

The information never really ended up getting used against me sadly, but every time I’ve engaged in any sort of PVP, being able to check in with each other, make sure we’re enjoying everything etc really just makes it a lot better.

For me I think it depends on the reason for the house rules more than the rules themselves.

@Yam I think it’s as simple as because in WoD you play as ‘The Monster’ in some various way. Like you can play as a bad criminal guy or whatever in Star Wars and probably Star Trek too, or ‘bad people’ in Lords & Ladies etc etc. But they all still start with the premise that you’re a person just like any other in your particular situation.

WoD positions the players as monsters and oWoD even does things like having different morality as part of the systems of play and somehow I think that extra step removed from being a ‘normal person’, even a bad person, gives people that extra edge (heh!) to be horrible.

Technically it’s only been a few months since I wrote a pose at a game, though it was the first time in about 4 months prior to that so I picked around the 6 month mark. I tried that Retromux place for a bit but it didn’t really stick with me.

For me it’s also the lack of games that are really grabbing my interest.

Dragonlance Mush! I started here because I always had a love of fantasy settings and Dragonlance in particular. I also found Ashirion: The Broken Sphere which was a homebrew fantasy setting from the game runner, which was probably not a great introduction to MU*ing but it was fun times.

I ended up on Dragonlance: Age of Mortals (the 3.5e D&D game) and that lead me to a group to go play on Haunted Memories. That’s right, while I’m pretty much just a WoD player nowdays, it took some time before I really found that setting, and I’m one of the few people with every little original World of Darkness experience!