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    Why is Pack closing?

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    • CobaltC
      Cobalt
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      @Gasboy said in Coming Soon: The Pack an Ares Game:

      @Cobalt That’s a bummer? What happened?

      I’m closing the game because I have gotten tired of playing whack-a-mole with the bad actors in the community.

      I am busy with RL that is true, but I had plans to jump start the game once I got moved into new house.

      However, increasing number of complaints have been filed about numerous players-- not just one. That it became obvious to me that there is something in the theme itself that draws out a certain type of player.

      And ngl, the final straw was something reported to me that was obscenely traumatic to read. To the point that I couldn’t facilitate a game where that type of shit went on, even in private scenes.

      Tl;dr: I’m closing because the theme attracts creeps and I’m tired of bouncing them off the game one by one.

      Cobalt@Under the Stars
      cob.alt@Discord
      Cobalt#[email protected]

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      • TezT
        Tez Administrators @Cobalt
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        @Cobalt I’m sorry that you had to go through that. It sounded like you had a good run. Congrats on that. Gamerunning is a real hellish labor of love.

        she/they

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        • bear_necessitiesB
          bear_necessities
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          Unfortunate that you had to close your game! I didn’t see any banned posts recently, is the person who committed the obscenely traumatic thing still on the game? Concerned about other Ares games because once that place shuts down they’ll see what shit they can pull elsewhere.

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          • L. B. HeuschkelL
            L. B. Heuschkel @bear_necessities
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            @bear_necessities I’m going to second that. If somebody is being that bloody awful, maybe it’s best to give the rest of us a heads-up in case we inherit the problem now. 😕

            Any pronouns. Come to Chincoteague. We have ponies. http://keys.aresmush.com

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            • CobaltC
              Cobalt
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              I really don’t want to get into the details publicly because the content was pretty triggering. I will say it involved what would have been rape and then extreme IC gaslighting in the follow up. On top of a bunch of OOC drama.

              If any game runner wants to speak with me privately, I can share more details and discuss what I know of the people involved-- these are not people with ares handles linked.

              Cobalt@Under the Stars
              cob.alt@Discord
              Cobalt#[email protected]

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              • L. B. HeuschkelL
                L. B. Heuschkel @Cobalt
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                @Cobalt Bloody hell. That sounds terrible.

                Not going to lie, I hope whoever that was decides to stay the hell off our game.

                Any pronouns. Come to Chincoteague. We have ponies. http://keys.aresmush.com

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                • TezT
                  Tez Administrators @Cobalt
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                  @Cobalt said in Why is Pack closing?:

                  I really don’t want to get into the details publicly because the content was pretty triggering. I will say it involved what would have been rape and then extreme IC gaslighting in the follow up. On top of a bunch of OOC drama.

                  If any game runner wants to speak with me privately, I can share more details and discuss what I know of the people involved-- these are not people with ares handles linked.

                  In a word: holy fuck. Of course that’s the kind of person who wouldn’t link their ares handle, tho.

                  she/they

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                  • allthecookiesA
                    allthecookies
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                    Thank you @Cobalt for the great stories and theme. I played on Pack and enjoyed my time, but when parts of the community become caustic and toxic it’s wise to step back.

                    Take good care of yourself and good luck with your RL move!

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                    • Third EyeT
                      Third Eye
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                      Ugh this sucks. It’s a game people really seemed to be responding to, but I definitely get opting out of the bullshit. The Worst people ruin things for everyone.

                      I want something else to get me through this
                      Semi-charmed kinda life, baby, baby
                      I want something else, I'm not listening when you say good-bye

                      She/Her or They/Them

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                      • SpaceKhomeiniS
                        SpaceKhomeini @Third Eye
                        last edited by SpaceKhomeini

                        @Third-Eye said in Why is Pack closing?:

                        Ugh this sucks. It’s a game people really seemed to be responding to, but I definitely get opting out of the bullshit. The Worst people ruin things for everyone.

                        50% why I don’t run a game – I’d just get drunk and ban people in the night.

                        That’s not saying this is the proper solution or anyone (especially Cobalt and whoever was on the receiving end of these peoples’ shit) should have to put up with or deal with this. I just couldn’t have made it this far.

                        I woke up feeling so good, I think I’d better call in sick/ I need a personal trainer to help me hold my drink
                        I plan to be spontaneous next time we meet/I’m putting off procrastinating until next week
                        I’ll get onto it when I give a shit

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                        • HerjaH
                          Herja
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                          I really hate the people in this hobby that ruin shit for everyone. I’m also so sorry that you have had to deal with this situation. This is the part of staffing a game that can be absolutely soul crushing.

                          lol lmao

                          It's me, hi, I'm the problem it's me

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                          • KarmaBumK
                            KarmaBum
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                            Sorry this is how it turned out, @Cobalt. Hope you find someplace to play that you enjoy!

                            On Dragon Wings · https://pern.gaslightswitch.com · pern.gaslightswitch.com port 4201

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                              Bessarion
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                              I know that the game attracted at least one known problem player from past WoD games and I’m pissed that people couldn’t just… not. It was a great game with a lot of potential.

                              I am/was tek. If this means something to you, do as you see fit with this knowledge.

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                              • CobaltC
                                Cobalt @KarmaBum
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                                @KarmaBum That is the thing that I think is the issue. It was too similar to a WoD theme. WoD itself attracts a lot of predatory people because it is a game about being predators.

                                Cobalt@Under the Stars
                                cob.alt@Discord
                                Cobalt#[email protected]

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                                  Gasboy @Cobalt
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                                  @Cobalt That’s horrible. 😞 Always with the bad apples spoiling it for the rest of us.

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                                    Testament @SpaceKhomeini
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                                    @SpaceKhomeini said in Why is Pack closing?:

                                    @Third-Eye said in Why is Pack closing?:

                                    Ugh this sucks. It’s a game people really seemed to be responding to, but I definitely get opting out of the bullshit. The Worst people ruin things for everyone.

                                    50% why I don’t run a game – I’d just get drunk and ban people in the night.

                                    I mean, that’s more or less what I do.

                                    I don't know what I'm doing. Poke at Seven Nations sevennations.aresmush.com port 2021

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                                      Bessarion @Testament
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                                      @Testament I mean, it’s what I did with the one guy I’ve had to ban so far. He got a warning before I went to bed. I woke up to reported conversations that showed he had not even listened a little bit. YEET.

                                      I am/was tek. If this means something to you, do as you see fit with this knowledge.

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                                      • KarmaBumK
                                        KarmaBum @Cobalt
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                                        @Cobalt I think you probably meant to @-someone else, but it is admittedly the reason I never pcreated there. I enjoyed the few times I know of that I played with you over the years, but I am always wary of shifter games in particular. Too many people in WoD took it to a gross, gross place. 😞

                                        On Dragon Wings · https://pern.gaslightswitch.com · pern.gaslightswitch.com port 4201

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                                        • IoleRaeI
                                          IoleRae
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                                          Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, I’m so sorry.

                                          the entity previously known as Sunny

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                                          • CobaltC
                                            Cobalt @KarmaBum
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                                            @KarmaBum said in Why is Pack closing?:

                                            @Cobalt I think you probably meant to @-someone else, but it is admittedly the reason I never pcreated there. I enjoyed the few times I know of that I played with you over the years, but I am always wary of shifter games in particular. Too many people in WoD took it to a gross, gross place. 😞

                                            Whoops! Yeah, I meant to @ @Bessarion.

                                            But, yeah. I love the shifter stuff, but I think the setting was just too close WoD. idk, something about the theme just…

                                            shrug

                                            Cobalt@Under the Stars
                                            cob.alt@Discord
                                            Cobalt#[email protected]

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