Sometimes there’ll be a player you really like that you just kinda lose touch with after you both lose the connective tissue of the game you were on at any given time. MUSHing is a transitory hobby, I try not to get too down about it.

Then 15 years will pass.

Then you meet a player you really like a new game and you both think you’re a TOTALLY NEW FUN PERSON.

Then one day you’re talking about old games and you realize that, in fact, you played together quite a lot on that one random game 15 years ago, and the internet has now brought you back into proximity for the first time in this decade+.

Sometimes the smallness of the hobby is actually nice.

Thank you BMD mods for making it easier to rubberneck and preserve this trashfire…I mean stay informed.

NGL the thing I’m trying to wrap my head around is this pile of refuse passing as a game not having a WORA/MSB thread prior to this.

I voted no due to the potential for abuse by bad actors but get why the Magicians guy deleted his post and think the kind of reception is worth reflecting upon.

@mietze said in MU Peeves Thread:

I wish people didn’t always turn this into “if you’re not in action/plot its because you just prefer social things” that is honest far from the truth a lot of the time.

I was once told - by someone in control of plot stuff - that because I was a ‘social RPer’ and in a decent number of scenes (many of which I asked for) that I didn’t need plot involvement. It was a hell of a thing and like five years later I’m still mad about it.

I have no interest in this game and shall never be present upon it but my friend in Beelezebub I do not think this proves the point you think it does.

@Cobalt
Whatever worked or didn’t work about The Pack, I really hope the experience wasn’t too discouraging for you. Like I said lots of posts back, it DID seem like a game a lot of players responded to in positive ways, and I am really impressed with how you responded to an atmosphere that you didn’t feel good about being the gamerunner of anymore, because that was obviously really hard and Unfun to deal with this directly. I think it’s always constructive to reflect on why something didn’t work, or didn’t work for you personally, or get across what you wanted to get across, but I hope that doesn’t mean it was as wholly negative experience because you are a gamerunner lots of people like and respect and it’d be awesome to see another project from you in the MUSH space when you were excited to do it.

@Narrator
lol my dude did you just compare yourself to Jesus on a message board? Is that where we are now?

I thought about going back but end of the day I came to the same conclusion I did a while ago: I left my most active period on Arx on a really good note and that’s the experience I want as my strongest memory of the game. It’s cool to see a chapter of it get a conclusion, though, a lot of MUs don’t, and I’ll be interested to see how it ties it up.

@Selira said in Macha Awareness (And Unappreciation) thread:

I’m still pretty shocked Derp made up a multiparagraph theory wholecloth and tried so hard to sell it. Why? What was the benefit of that kind of speculation? I realize I’m speculating here, myself, but he’s more than welcome to come here and provide the answers.

That was the first moment I was sorry I was banned (apart from every time I try to find something on that mess of a board because the bad search is even worse if you aren’t logged in) because I would’ve enjoyed enthusiastically and repeatedly reporting Derp’s own post for violating his ‘you need to bring receipts’ and ‘no personal attacks’ rules.

@Yam
Picking up a roster on Arx was like that. Creating an OC was a fairly fiddly process that I gave up on the first time. Arx seemingly wasn’t really optimized for doing that, though, and being steered toward a roster was always kinda working as intended imo. You make your choices.

Even as somebody who still plays on-client a fair amount, I wouldn’t want to do CG in a pure text interface again. It’s just so much easier on web to save things/proof things/edit things.

Also staff-side it’s way easier to make small changes if I need to, give notes to players, or see where somebody’s getting an error (either through user error or something screwy with the game).

LOL I still like to RP.

Also other things, but I don’t think it’s inhibiting my life. I go in and out of it, like most hobbies.

When it went down a friend of mine commented that it coincided with one of the Cloudflare faceplants, which makes sense as a ‘I don’t want to go through any effort to maintain this’ moment. It was just unresponsive the last time I tried to pull it up but I can’t say I’m surprised the URL got snatched up by a bad actor, given that trolls seemed to still haunt both it and BMD periodically.

@helvetica said in AI In Poses:

@hellfrog said in AI In Poses:

wow wow
wonder where they are from? what happened in the mushing world

I don’t want to ruin the plot of Serial Experiments Lain for you, but…

My crystal ball is telling me they’re from a chan, of some sort. Perhaps a chan of 4s, if you will…

@Lemon-Fox said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

Okay. So, give me a place to play. Somewhere fairly busy, without draconian standards of what you can or cannot pose, where I can be a socialite without running scenes or getting anything approved.

We have very, very different tastes, you and I, I sense, so I am of no help to you here, but I am curious what games you tried that had these unacceptable things.

Be Doing a Thing.

I think a lot of the reason people complain about non-action RP is that frequently people aren’t doing anything.

Fix a random household object. Be enthused about a piece of media. Lose something and rope other people into finding it. Make up a thing about a family NPC and talk about it. Gossip about A Thing That Happened IC. Don’t be purely passive, basically.

@Roz said in Bad Stuff Happening IC:

I answered “if I have control over it” which isn’t EXACTLY right, I don’t want to be needing to dictate the details. But it’s moreso a level of – understanding the risk I’m getting into, and also that I definitely trust some GMs more than others.

This was both how I voted and I feel. I wax nostalgic about The Greatest Generation MUSH a lot and all my characters dying, but that was only fun because of how OOCly clear the risks going in were. I’m not sure I’ve ever played in an environment with what I consider ‘real’ social consequences but I doubt it’d change my opinion. I’m the type of person who tries to play characters that have pretty baseline IC opinions about stuff and it’s sometimes really frustrating when that’s not reflected in everyone else’s play and you just feel like a meanie while staff doesn’t do any enforcement of people wilding out IC, or spotty enforcement that seems to miss their buddies.

@Trashcan said in AI In Poses:
IDK how to feel about how closely the ‘great, now write a description’ prompt ended up eerily similar to the Age Old Nymeria Desc we’ve all read for ages and understood was bad and overwrought and that ended in one of the WORAs getting hosted in Malaysia.

I guess in my heart of hearts I hope LLM was trained on it, over and over again.

@Faraday said in AI In Poses:

So I’m not saying “never use grammar checkers because they suck and have no value”. I’m just saying that they don’t work well enough to be relied upon, and anybody who uses them needs to be well aware of their limitations. This just doesn’t happen when you’re a layperson whose only info is their marketing hype.

Make not mistake, I agree with this and agree with it more the more I play with the detectors, both the one I value enough to pay actual money for and the various other ones out there. I think Grammar Checks are one of the better comparisons that’ve come up, because I both use them and frequently just ignore what they’re highlighting.

Gonna be real real here, and apologies if this sounds dismissive to the people who say they can’t tell or don’t care about this stuff. I honestly do trust my gut more at this point, especially if my gut is confirmed by three or four other acquaintances of mine who I think have a really good sense of this stuff. My experience with false positives has been pretty minimal and limited to sets of text I’ve come to the conclusion teh detectors aren’t well-equipped to read. But the false negatives, and they happen not-infrequently, drive me a little batty. Because at that point I feel like I just have to accept probably being lied to by this person I’m playing with and shrugging my shoulders. But, idk, maybe that’s not the worst thing in the world.

I also really cringe at ‘vibes man’ becoming the way to figure this out, though, because I see some people spot ‘AI’ and I think they’re wrong, have terrible instincts, and are fixating on stuff I don’t think is relevant.