Neitherlands

YetiBeard

Someone else random piloting my retired PC is a horrifying thought. I can’t imagine taking a players character and turning it into a roster.

devu

@YetiBeard what, like this approved character who was renamed, altered and turned into a roster?

(Not my character, but this is… so confusing. Literally more work than just making a new roster bit.)

(edited to add spoiler tags 'cause the image is huge)

Coin

@devu said in Neitherlands:

@YetiBeard what, like this approved character who was renamed, altered and turned into a roster?

(Not my character, but this is… so confusing. Literally more work than just making a new roster bit.)

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That was Clockwork’s character, too. They actually called Wizard out on this on the Ares Discord server.

[1:11 AM]NeitherlandsMU: FRAAAAAAAAAAAACK
[1:11 AM]NeitherlandsMU: 5 days!
[1:11 AM]NeitherlandsMU: IT ONLY TOOK 5 days before some player threw a shit fit and had a conniption fit on channel and had to be banned
[1:11 AM]NeitherlandsMU: DAFUQ PEOPLE
[10:30 AM]NeitherlandsMU: how do you ‘retire’ a character
[10:30 AM]NeitherlandsMU: to move them from approved to gone?
[10:32 AM]Tat: options are in ‘help manage idle’
[11:27 AM]Emblem of Ea MU: MU attracts more than its fair share of crazy. One learns to live with it. ¯_(ツ)_/¯* (iiiiiiirony)
[9:16 PM]NeitherlandsMU: how do you set someone to DEAD?
[9:18 PM]Faraday: Same way Tat said - help manage idle. Explains the whole idle system.
[9:33 PM]NeitherlandsMU: i don’t see an option for dead
[9:35 PM]Tributary: idle/now <name>=<status> - Sets someone’s status without running through the idle queue. Only ‘None’, ‘Dead’ and ‘Gone’ are valid options here.
[9:36 PM]Faraday: Also in help manage idle it lists ‘dead’ as one of the status options in the list near the top of the article. And it’s an option in the status dropdown on the idle sweep web portal screen.
[9:47 PM]Clockwork: By the way, when you destroy a character in Ares, it does not reassign the “dbref number” like in MUX. It creates a new number each time you create a character. So when you went into Carter and renamed him and changed him into a different character for the roster, his scenes stayed linked to your new roster, Topher. And I would have appreciated you not logging into my character and just removing it as requested.

(the “shitfit and coniption” mentioned at the beginning is the incident @Aria was referring to in her earlier post)

helvetica

The modus operandi has since shifted to personalized dead/gone messages. Which is kind of nice in a really butthurt way.

Aria

@Coin said in Neitherlands:

@devu said in Neitherlands:

@YetiBeard what, like this approved character who was renamed, altered and turned into a roster?

(Not my character, but this is… so confusing. Literally more work than just making a new roster bit.)

>

That was Clockwork’s character, too. They actually called Wizard out on this on the Ares Discord server.

[1:11 AM]NeitherlandsMU: FRAAAAAAAAAAAACK
[1:11 AM]NeitherlandsMU: 5 days!
[1:11 AM]NeitherlandsMU: IT ONLY TOOK 5 days before some player threw a shit fit and had a conniption fit on channel and had to be banned
[1:11 AM]NeitherlandsMU: DAFUQ PEOPLE
[10:30 AM]NeitherlandsMU: how do you ‘retire’ a character
[10:30 AM]NeitherlandsMU: to move them from approved to gone?
[10:32 AM]Tat: options are in ‘help manage idle’
[11:27 AM]Emblem of Ea MU: MU attracts more than its fair share of crazy. One learns to live with it. ¯_(ツ)_/¯* (iiiiiiirony)
[9:16 PM]NeitherlandsMU: how do you set someone to DEAD?
[9:18 PM]Faraday: Same way Tat said - help manage idle. Explains the whole idle system.
[9:33 PM]NeitherlandsMU: i don’t see an option for dead
[9:35 PM]Tributary: idle/now <name>=<status> - Sets someone’s status without running through the idle queue. Only ‘None’, ‘Dead’ and ‘Gone’ are valid options here.
[9:36 PM]Faraday: Also in help manage idle it lists ‘dead’ as one of the status options in the list near the top of the article. And it’s an option in the status dropdown on the idle sweep web portal screen.
[9:47 PM]Clockwork: By the way, when you destroy a character in Ares, it does not reassign the “dbref number” like in MUX. It creates a new number each time you create a character. So when you went into Carter and renamed him and changed him into a different character for the roster, his scenes stayed linked to your new roster, Topher. And I would have appreciated you not logging into my character and just removing it as requested.

(the “shitfit and coniption” mentioned at the beginning is the incident @Aria was referring to in her earlier post)

Seriously, their “shitfit and coniption” was basically just…

The magic system was confusing and spread out in multiple places. They were strongly suggesting it be consolidated into one page to reference, because they didn’t understand it and thought having it all in once place might make it easier to figure out.

That’s it. That’s literally it. Is that work for a staffer to do? Yes. Is it an unreasonable request? No. That’s base level organization of the core info you need to make a character in this game.

Cobalt

So, a while back I lost a puppy to parvo and at the same time we thought my spouse’s father was having a heart attack.

This person was messaging me for advice/help on getting Ares up. I told her to reach out to Faraday and she kept asking me and we had this exchange, which honestly really soured me of them.

I don’t mind being helpful to people but when I say my father in law might have had a heart attack and you continue to ask for help without acknowledging that maybe I have more important things to be doing….

Tributary

@Coin said in Neitherlands:

That was Clockwork’s character, too. They actually called Wizard out on this on the Ares Discord server.

That poor Ares Discord server has had a lot of boggling moments wherein she came in to ask questions that she could have read about in @Faraday’s extensive documentation.

Including what sort of read as demanding to know why FS3 is not WoD.

She also got super impatient paging me questions about Ares on UTS because I did not know the answers. And also because I was busy with other things.

Her game has not even been in existence a month, and people are impressed by how unhinged she’s been.

Tributary

@Cobalt OMG, the timestamps on that suggest she was harassing us both at the same time!

helvetica

@Tributary yeah, haha, I had magic systems and Ares “explained” to me quite a bit. good times

Third Eye

Thank you BMD mods for making it easier to rubberneck and preserve this trashfire…I mean stay informed.

Tat

@helvetica said in Neitherlands:

@Tributary yeah, haha, I had magic systems and Ares “explained” to me quite a bit. good times

lol

Jenn

@helvetica Ok, but like. Did you learn anything from it? Or just lose brain cells with the rest of us along the way?

Wizz

@helvetica said in Neitherlands:

The modus operandi has since shifted to personalized dead/gone messages. Which is kind of nice in a really butthurt way.

I wanted to state for the record that Luka was awesome, I was really enjoying the dynamic he and Avery had with Sophia, and this is all an enormous bummer to me.

Bahhhh.

KarmaBum

@Tributary @Cobalt Within a few hours of her getting banned on Zombies, looks like.

I’m glad I got ahead of this crazy. \o/

Pavel

Tributary

@KarmaBum She knows you banned her for looking at your man!!!

helvetica

@Wizz said in Neitherlands:

@helvetica said in Neitherlands:

The modus operandi has since shifted to personalized dead/gone messages. Which is kind of nice in a really butthurt way.

I wanted to state for the record that Luka was awesome, I was really enjoying the dynamic he and Avery had with Sophia, and this is all an enormous bummer to me.

Bahhhh.

the dynamic of… wow, this boy and this girl might legit get in a fight, and awkwardly enough, the only person who can defuse the tension is also the guy who likes to SET SHIT ON FIRE

lol, yeah, i’m sorry. i’m honestly really bummed, too. that player-base was like striking gold, just like a ton of creative energy, but instead of embracing that, we got a headwiz that ~~was~~ is threatened by it

Jenn

@helvetica @Wizz
We really DID all end up gone from in the middle of some of the best scenes. Not enough that I miss the place, but like. Those were good stories.

KarmaBum

@Tributary She’s not entirely wrong, just not for the reason she thinks.

She flirted with every guy. To the point that multiple players were like “yo, this is too much.”

I told her as much when I banned her, but she seems like the sort of person that just decides what everyone should believe, regardless of the truth, la~

(to Irene) KarmaBum (kb) says, “Hey, you around at the moment?”

(to KarmaBum) Irene says, “Sup?”

(to Irene) KarmaBum (kb) says, “It’s only been a couple of days since your PC was approved, but several people have come to me with concerns that your RP makes them uncomfortable, specifically your focus on male PCs and hook-up RP, your tendency to meta negative or dismissive things about female PCs, and the stereotyping and racist meta. Taking a look with fresh eyes this morning, I agree and am going to act on it. Rather than keep making players feel like they need to avoid your PC, I’m removing you from play here. I hope you find some game that suits your style and RP goals, but this isn’t it.”

(to KarmaBum) Irene says, “I didn’t do submissive things about female PCs.”

(to Irene) KarmaBum (kb) says, “It’s really not up for discussion. I just wanted to be sure you saw the page before removing you from the game. Take care and good luck with future gaming.”

She did take my advice and find (or make or steal or whatever she did) a game more to her tastes, so good on her.

Still, she’s welcome to accuse me of wanting to keep all the dicks to myself. Anyone who knows me will know why that’s hilarious.

DrQuinn

@KarmaBum said in Neitherlands:

(to KarmaBum) Irene says, “I didn’t do submissive things about female PCs.”

Please tell me that’s not just a transcription typo because LOL.