Neitherlands

Nilli

@Whisky said in MU Peeves Thread:

Woke up in the morning to find the password changed and my mostly-done character was now a roster character, mostly edited to suit what they wanted.

I would be super pissed if a PC I made (even if I didn’t finish it!) was made a roster without my consent or approval. That’s so rude.

That happened to me on a game once. I want to say Witchcraft & Wizardry? I made an OC, did a few scenes, and idled out, and when I came back months later my OC had been rostered and someone else was playing him, without my consent.

Adora

@Whisky I know you said you weren’t particularly attached to your WIP character, but I find this kind of theft of work especially heinous and I’m sorry it happened to you.

If she’s this unconcerned about ethics just go to ChatGPT (which is trained off stolen copyrighted works), feed it a completed app and ask it to fart out a new app set in the same world in that format.

Third Eye

@Nilli said in MU Peeves Thread:

That happened to me on a game once. I want to say Witchcraft & Wizardry? I made an OC, did a few scenes, and idled out, and when I came back months later my OC had been rostered and someone else was playing him, without my consent.

Lol SAME. Oh my five minutes on Witchcraft & Wizardry, what a time. This was the only game I’d seen do that, make original characters into rosters without the player’s OK. Another player even played the character I’d made for a while. It was weird.

Nilli

@Third-Eye I never went back again to see what the new player was doing with my boy, but it was WEIRD. I guess it’s nice to know that it wasn’t just me this happened to!

YetiBeard

Someone else random piloting my retired PC is a horrifying thought. I can’t imagine taking a players character and turning it into a roster.

devu

@YetiBeard what, like this approved character who was renamed, altered and turned into a roster?

(Not my character, but this is… so confusing. Literally more work than just making a new roster bit.)

(edited to add spoiler tags 'cause the image is huge)

Coin

@devu said in Neitherlands:

@YetiBeard what, like this approved character who was renamed, altered and turned into a roster?

(Not my character, but this is… so confusing. Literally more work than just making a new roster bit.)

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That was Clockwork’s character, too. They actually called Wizard out on this on the Ares Discord server.

[1:11 AM]NeitherlandsMU: FRAAAAAAAAAAAACK
[1:11 AM]NeitherlandsMU: 5 days!
[1:11 AM]NeitherlandsMU: IT ONLY TOOK 5 days before some player threw a shit fit and had a conniption fit on channel and had to be banned
[1:11 AM]NeitherlandsMU: DAFUQ PEOPLE
[10:30 AM]NeitherlandsMU: how do you ‘retire’ a character
[10:30 AM]NeitherlandsMU: to move them from approved to gone?
[10:32 AM]Tat: options are in ‘help manage idle’
[11:27 AM]Emblem of Ea MU: MU attracts more than its fair share of crazy. One learns to live with it. ¯_(ツ)_/¯* (iiiiiiirony)
[9:16 PM]NeitherlandsMU: how do you set someone to DEAD?
[9:18 PM]Faraday: Same way Tat said - help manage idle. Explains the whole idle system.
[9:33 PM]NeitherlandsMU: i don’t see an option for dead
[9:35 PM]Tributary: idle/now <name>=<status> - Sets someone’s status without running through the idle queue. Only ‘None’, ‘Dead’ and ‘Gone’ are valid options here.
[9:36 PM]Faraday: Also in help manage idle it lists ‘dead’ as one of the status options in the list near the top of the article. And it’s an option in the status dropdown on the idle sweep web portal screen.
[9:47 PM]Clockwork: By the way, when you destroy a character in Ares, it does not reassign the “dbref number” like in MUX. It creates a new number each time you create a character. So when you went into Carter and renamed him and changed him into a different character for the roster, his scenes stayed linked to your new roster, Topher. And I would have appreciated you not logging into my character and just removing it as requested.

(the “shitfit and coniption” mentioned at the beginning is the incident @Aria was referring to in her earlier post)

helvetica

The modus operandi has since shifted to personalized dead/gone messages. Which is kind of nice in a really butthurt way.

Aria

@Coin said in Neitherlands:

@devu said in Neitherlands:

@YetiBeard what, like this approved character who was renamed, altered and turned into a roster?

(Not my character, but this is… so confusing. Literally more work than just making a new roster bit.)

>

That was Clockwork’s character, too. They actually called Wizard out on this on the Ares Discord server.

[1:11 AM]NeitherlandsMU: FRAAAAAAAAAAAACK
[1:11 AM]NeitherlandsMU: 5 days!
[1:11 AM]NeitherlandsMU: IT ONLY TOOK 5 days before some player threw a shit fit and had a conniption fit on channel and had to be banned
[1:11 AM]NeitherlandsMU: DAFUQ PEOPLE
[10:30 AM]NeitherlandsMU: how do you ‘retire’ a character
[10:30 AM]NeitherlandsMU: to move them from approved to gone?
[10:32 AM]Tat: options are in ‘help manage idle’
[11:27 AM]Emblem of Ea MU: MU attracts more than its fair share of crazy. One learns to live with it. ¯_(ツ)_/¯* (iiiiiiirony)
[9:16 PM]NeitherlandsMU: how do you set someone to DEAD?
[9:18 PM]Faraday: Same way Tat said - help manage idle. Explains the whole idle system.
[9:33 PM]NeitherlandsMU: i don’t see an option for dead
[9:35 PM]Tributary: idle/now <name>=<status> - Sets someone’s status without running through the idle queue. Only ‘None’, ‘Dead’ and ‘Gone’ are valid options here.
[9:36 PM]Faraday: Also in help manage idle it lists ‘dead’ as one of the status options in the list near the top of the article. And it’s an option in the status dropdown on the idle sweep web portal screen.
[9:47 PM]Clockwork: By the way, when you destroy a character in Ares, it does not reassign the “dbref number” like in MUX. It creates a new number each time you create a character. So when you went into Carter and renamed him and changed him into a different character for the roster, his scenes stayed linked to your new roster, Topher. And I would have appreciated you not logging into my character and just removing it as requested.

(the “shitfit and coniption” mentioned at the beginning is the incident @Aria was referring to in her earlier post)

Seriously, their “shitfit and coniption” was basically just…

The magic system was confusing and spread out in multiple places. They were strongly suggesting it be consolidated into one page to reference, because they didn’t understand it and thought having it all in once place might make it easier to figure out.

That’s it. That’s literally it. Is that work for a staffer to do? Yes. Is it an unreasonable request? No. That’s base level organization of the core info you need to make a character in this game.

Cobalt

So, a while back I lost a puppy to parvo and at the same time we thought my spouse’s father was having a heart attack.

This person was messaging me for advice/help on getting Ares up. I told her to reach out to Faraday and she kept asking me and we had this exchange, which honestly really soured me of them.

I don’t mind being helpful to people but when I say my father in law might have had a heart attack and you continue to ask for help without acknowledging that maybe I have more important things to be doing….

Tributary

@Coin said in Neitherlands:

That was Clockwork’s character, too. They actually called Wizard out on this on the Ares Discord server.

That poor Ares Discord server has had a lot of boggling moments wherein she came in to ask questions that she could have read about in @Faraday’s extensive documentation.

Including what sort of read as demanding to know why FS3 is not WoD.

She also got super impatient paging me questions about Ares on UTS because I did not know the answers. And also because I was busy with other things.

Her game has not even been in existence a month, and people are impressed by how unhinged she’s been.

Tributary

@Cobalt OMG, the timestamps on that suggest she was harassing us both at the same time!

helvetica

@Tributary yeah, haha, I had magic systems and Ares “explained” to me quite a bit. good times

Third Eye

Thank you BMD mods for making it easier to rubberneck and preserve this trashfire…I mean stay informed.

Tat

@helvetica said in Neitherlands:

@Tributary yeah, haha, I had magic systems and Ares “explained” to me quite a bit. good times

lol

Jenn

@helvetica Ok, but like. Did you learn anything from it? Or just lose brain cells with the rest of us along the way?

Wizz

@helvetica said in Neitherlands:

The modus operandi has since shifted to personalized dead/gone messages. Which is kind of nice in a really butthurt way.

I wanted to state for the record that Luka was awesome, I was really enjoying the dynamic he and Avery had with Sophia, and this is all an enormous bummer to me.

Bahhhh.

KarmaBum

@Tributary @Cobalt Within a few hours of her getting banned on Zombies, looks like.

I’m glad I got ahead of this crazy. \o/

Pavel

Tributary

@KarmaBum She knows you banned her for looking at your man!!!