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Macha Awareness (And Unappreciation) thread
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@theworstburr said in Macha Awareness (And Unappreciation) thread:
because there’s not really any court system here other than the court of public opinion
I tried to set one up. Got the judge’s robes and everything. We’re talking British-style, bright red robes and shoulder-length wig.
The Honourable Lord Judge P. S. Kulikovskaya, presiding.
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@Nobody-0 Aww Jeez, yeah that makes perfect sense. I’ve heard she borrowed money from one player with the express purpose of not paying them back.
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I’ve updated the main post with the who@where’s, if there’s one you know of or I missed let me know and I’ll add
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@Jax I hope that is sarcasm? Though if you give money to people you know from the internet it’s best to assume your not getting it back.
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@CuriousGamer The story I heard she told the player she would pay them back then got the money and laughed at them behind their back calling them a sucker.
Oh I agree loaning people on the net is a bad idea.
My own interaction with her was her trying to get me on her side months after she had one of these incidents with another player and staff go involved. I walked out of the scene. She wasn’t a fan of me afterwards. Oh well, it doesn’t seem I missed out.
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Yeah I don’t expect repayment when I do an internet loan. & I have only done it rarely and for people I actually know ooc and care about.
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@Jax I have to admit I’m just slightly disappointed that this story didn’t end with her asking you for $20
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@CuriousGamer. Nah It probably would have ended with her saying 'I never asked him for 20 bucks he was confused, but he can give me 50 bucks to say he was sorry."
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@Jax Don’t forget the 3 people you’ve never talked to suddenly paging you about how your a horrible person for not giving her 50 bucks.
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Seriously, I must have like a digital aura that repels people, because I almost never get paged out of nowhere by anyone, and when I do it’s never dramatic. Point being I just can’t understand how these events occur. I’m assuming it has to do with the fact I don’t talk to people outside of channels very often. >.>
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@dvoraen Well, this is my understanding of the basic scenario.
Macha has something she wants. All is well till she doesn’t get it. When she doesn’t, she craptalks to you to circle of friends, making sure they talk to their friends. She used to have a good bit of influence, and as the bannings have been happening I do think that influence has been drying up significantly.
She’s influenced game runners (or the runners were her friends). She uses anything she can throw at you for circumstance to try to get you to feel bad. Or try to use a form of logic to retell events that are not quite right so she looks better, or not as bad to try to make you think that she is being ganged up on instead of taking personal responsibility. It could be something she’s claiming as rl, or a personal slight she perceives, something against someone else. Whatever gives her an ‘in’.
So at some point you hear from someone you do know - Hey, I heard this was going around about you? Did you know?
She finds way to wiggle into others confidence when she can, and tries to change their opinions of intended target. If your in her confidence, she’s probably talking about you to other people too.
I think that’s pretty much how it works. She’s still around. She hasn’t left the hobby, and is still trying to convince people things aren’t her fault.
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@CuriousGamer. Jokes on them/her. Somebody was probably already paging me that I’m the worst, so that doesn’t phase me.
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You know, hearing about her going around trying to get money from people – it makes me think of the big DM conversation she initiated with someone to get them banned from MSB. It was mostly a conversation about how awful I was. Among it, she said this:
“When a truly good person heard about something terrible happening to Roz, and couldn’t bring themselves to express basic sympathy, was when I knew I wasn’t the only one.” (To feel the way she felt about me, etc.)
The “something terrible” was my brother committing suicide a decade ago. And trust me, I would not have wanted to hear from Macha – or anyone else that didn’t like me – at the time! But man, it sure stuck with me that this was apparently an active decision, not just the normal “Oh that’s an awful thing that happened but that person and I don’t get along so it would make no sense to insert myself into the situation” thing, but “Oh that’s an awful thing and maybe I would say something but they are specifically undeserving of an expression of sympathy.” ETA: And the fact that she remembered this so specifically to bring it up ten years later.
Anyways that’s what I think of when it comes to her bothering people for their help.
she/her | playlist
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@Roz That is some pretty dark stuff. But that’s an example of Macha for you. For the uninitiated she can pull people in, try to show how she’s been wronged in any number of ways. And she hangs onto things.
Most people with common sense might say - I’ve been banned. This place isn’t working out for me. I did something wrong. It wasn’t a good fit. Etc. But she will try to mess with people from across mu*s. Instead of doing it openly she’s largely gone underground.
Sorry you had to go through that Roz. But as has been discussed, she’s not in a particularly sane headspace and plays by her own rules (that she makes up as she goes)
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@Roz Just when I think that I cannot dislike this person more, I hear more stories. I’m sorry that was ever said about you. It’s revolting and cruel.
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@CuriousGamer My experience of her was never as some master manipulator. She was mostly just a deeply frustrating and unpleasant person I didn’t want to play or engage with. But she did always have friends, and I do recall getting the sense that she would rile them up on her behalf sometimes. And honestly, I just assumed that she’d grown up over the years, as most people do. It wasn’t until last year with the big split that I came to understand she had actually gotten worse.
I wasn’t hurt or upset by what she said recently about me, I just recall seeing that one and going WOW, gloves AND mask off, huh.
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@Roz said in Macha Awareness (And Unappreciation) thread:
“When a truly good person heard about something terrible happening to Roz, and couldn’t bring themselves to express basic sympathy, was when I knew I wasn’t the only one.” (To feel the way she felt about me, etc.)
The “something terrible” was my brother committing suicide a decade ago. And trust me, I would not have wanted to hear from Macha – or anyone else that didn’t like me – at the time! But man, it sure stuck with me that this was apparently an active decision, not just the normal “Oh that’s an awful thing that happened but that person and I don’t get along so it would make no sense to insert myself into the situation” thing, but “Oh that’s an awful thing and maybe I would say something but they are specifically undeserving of an expression of sympathy.”
Have you considered punching her in the mouth? Because I kind of want to on your behalf.
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@Roz I can honestly say the only two people in my mush career I have ever gotten to the point of “Can’t stand them, will never trust them again and never want to speak to them again” are the headwiz who ran Elseverse and Macha. Same in real life. I have less than a handful of people I’ve gone “complete cut out” mode concerning.
That being said, both in real life and even on a game where I’ve never met a person face to face, I can never imagine the soulless vileness required to have that complete lack of empathy. I honestly don’t want to either because just trying makes me feel so gross. I am beyond sorry for your loss and that experience.
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@SockMonkey Plot twist, or maybe not, the headwiz of Elseverse was also banned from the Pack (Bailey) and Inifinite Adventures. (Scott Summers)
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@Lucidmoon Oh I am aware. No tears were shed. No shock had.
