A Constructive Arx Thread
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That’s another thing, I generally dislike Rosters because I find it hard to get invested in a character that isn’t ‘mine’. The character is going to be played differently, the previous players may have enjoyed RP types that I do not, there may very well be a huge sense of just disconnect and inconsistency it worries me.
I am not saying that this is what is going to happen, just that it is a concern, and a worry, and why I would prefer to make my own character or… at least be a character that grabs me as interesting straight off rather than just being ‘This is the scraps of what we have, good luck.’
I hope I have not offended.
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@Birdie said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
@Jennkryst I think that if you see a character you like that is on the audit list, you can request to apply for them. Perhaps even help with said audit? For example I have a couple of cousins on the audit list for my alt. If someone was interested in either of them, I would be happy to help them settle in, etc. You can check with the active family members of characters you might be interested in for their input.
Yeah, this is fine. I moved characters into waiting rewrites because I was like, ‘this is a character where if a new player grabbed them, they would probably idle out because of X reasons’, not because like I hate the character. So if someone wants to play it, go nuts. Just please don’t because you’re like, ‘I want that family member played’ because the character would likely just not be great for a new player and it’ll be hard to keep them.
Philosophically this is usually because a character is missing something. I personally have found characters that were absurdly active and have 10 million pages of things they have done to not be nearly as problematic as someone with nothing there. While yeah some people get overwhelmed and say ‘nah fam’, it’s usually more likely they stick with them.
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@Jennkryst said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
Learning is a big part of it, and there… is actually a maybe in-setting explanation for people getting amnesia here and there to explain different players picking up the character and playing them different. I COULD BE WRONG, but that feels like an IC reason why they have journals - so if amnesia happens, the character can read about things they thought were important and forgot about.
You are right that there is a metaplot reason why the game’s society has forgotten certain aspects of their history and world (specifically magical/supernatural things), plus the more concrete/mundane reason that the original big archive of knowledge was destroyed a few hundred years back. However, the practice of writing journals is, as far as I know, not related to that and almost surely predates it, as much as there’s just thematic intertwining between matters of knowledge vs ignorance. Journaling as a practice is part of the overall domain of Vellichor, the God of Knowledge, as part of the religious mandate to preserve knowledge in general.
@Mourne said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
That’s another thing, I generally dislike Rosters because I find it hard to get invested in a character that isn’t ‘mine’. The character is going to be played differently, the previous players may have enjoyed RP types that I do not, there may very well be a huge sense of just disconnect and inconsistency it worries me.
I am not saying that this is what is going to happen, just that it is a concern, and a worry, and why I would prefer to make my own character or… at least be a character that grabs me as interesting straight off rather than just being ‘This is the scraps of what we have, good luck.’
I hope I have not offended.
I for one am not offended! It’s a common concern shared by a lot of players, being a bit nervous about rosters and such. There are a lot of really good rosters that have been written over the years, and the ones on the roster audit list are by no means all there because they’re uninteresting characters. There are a lot of characters in there with a lot of meat, so my hope would be that, if you were to pop on the game and share some of the overall hopes you have in mind for a character, that someone might be able to pull some options up that would grab your interest.
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@Roz said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
You are right that there is a metaplot reason why the game’s society has forgotten certain aspects of their history and world (specifically magical/supernatural things), plus the more concrete/mundane reason that the original big archive of knowledge was destroyed a few hundred years back. However, the practice of writing journals is, as far as I know, not related to that and almost surely predates it, as much as there’s just thematic intertwining between matters of knowledge vs ignorance. Journaling as a practice is part of the overall domain of Vellichor, the God of Knowledge, as part of the religious mandate to preserve knowledge in general.
But who is to say that it was not created as a religious mandate specifically because random bits of collective amnesia is the norm in-setting?!?
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I mean, I’m just being silly at this point with it, but it also kind of works. JUST LIKE MY CALENDAR CONSPIRACY THEORY!
Mummy Pun? MUMMY PUN!
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@Jennkryst said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
@Roz said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
You are right that there is a metaplot reason why the game’s society has forgotten certain aspects of their history and world (specifically magical/supernatural things), plus the more concrete/mundane reason that the original big archive of knowledge was destroyed a few hundred years back. However, the practice of writing journals is, as far as I know, not related to that and almost surely predates it, as much as there’s just thematic intertwining between matters of knowledge vs ignorance. Journaling as a practice is part of the overall domain of Vellichor, the God of Knowledge, as part of the religious mandate to preserve knowledge in general.
But who is to say that it was not created as a religious mandate specifically because random bits of collective amnesia is the norm in-setting?!?
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I mean, I’m just being silly at this point with it, but it also kind of works. JUST LIKE MY CALENDAR CONSPIRACY THEORY!
because there’s more contextual info you can find about the how and when of all of it that and also because i must treat all serious queries like they are appearing on the info channel and ruin all subsequent jokes
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@Roz rozzes gonna roz
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@Mourne said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
That’s another thing, I generally dislike Rosters because I find it hard to get invested in a character that isn’t ‘mine’. The character is going to be played differently, the previous players may have enjoyed RP types that I do not, there may very well be a huge sense of just disconnect and inconsistency it worries me.
I am not saying that this is what is going to happen, just that it is a concern, and a worry, and why I would prefer to make my own character or… at least be a character that grabs me as interesting straight off rather than just being ‘This is the scraps of what we have, good luck.’
I hope I have not offended.
Not offended at all!!! Not at all.
https://play.arxgame.org/topics/Relationship Continuity/
That’s relevant.
When you take it? It’s YOUR character. People will work with you to make it work for you, and if they refuse to, other people will help. With sticks, if needed.
eta: I feel the need to caveat ‘within reason’, here. There are rules regarding dramatic changes and as the linked file says, if it’s written down it’s written down. But all of these things fall ‘within reason’, imnsho.
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@IoleRae said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
That’s relevant.
When you take it? It’s YOUR character. People will work with you to make it work for you, and if they refuse to, other people will help. With sticks, if needed.
eta: I feel the need to caveat ‘within reason’, here. There are rules regarding dramatic changes and as the linked file says, if it’s written down it’s written down. But all of these things fall ‘within reason’, imnsho.
I perhaps have the worst timing. I did find one roster whom looked interesting but someone apparently app’d them before I did so I lost out. Which is fine. First come first serve or they (most likely) had the better app as since I am new to the game the idea of:
How will you add RP to the game?
Answer should always be: By RP’ing with others.
The only other character on the list (outside those blacklist people I haven’t looked at if I am being completely honest) apparently is deeply in love with his spouse, who is not currently played (And I don’t know if I would be /more/ or /less/ comfortable trying to play the character if she was). So it makes it… Ugh.
I’ll just wait until I can try to make my own character I think.
Thanks for all the suggestions
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@Mourne said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
I perhaps have the worst timing. I did find one roster whom looked interesting but someone apparently app’d them before I did so I lost out. Which is fine. First come first serve or they (most likely) had the better app as since I am new to the game the idea of:
How will you add RP to the game?
Answer should always be: By RP’ing with others.
Thanks for all the suggestions
…this is all I’ve ever really said when I’ve apped a roster, just in more words. I think you and Arx are on the same page there, tbh.
Either way, I hope you find SOMETHING! You seem pretty okay, and you spell things right, and you think in whole thoughts, etc
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Rosters are almost always first come, first serve, the apps are just sanity checks, so the other person probably just put their app in before you, yeah.
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@Mourne You can also keep an eye out - a lot of characters are only played briefly and then put right back on the roster.
But I am not trying to PEER PRESSURE you into playing Arx, wanting an OC is totally legit.
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@farfalla said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
@Mourne You can also keep an eye out - a lot of characters are only played briefly and then put right back on the roster.
But I am not trying to PEER PRESSURE you into playing Arx, wanting an OC is totally legit.
Not a peer, not yet… alas.
Maybe one day
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@Mourne if a spouse isn’t played and they’re integral to the character, i recommend asking in the app if widower is an option
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@sao said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
@Mourne if a spouse isn’t played and they’re integral to the character, i recommend asking in the app if widower is an option
I’d feel bad about taking the option of a pair of individuals coming in who wanted to have that relationship apping in together.
Also, runs smack into my fear of making what could be considered a demand just to suit me which I don’t think is fair of anyone to ask staff.
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@Mourne said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
@sao said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
@Mourne if a spouse isn’t played and they’re integral to the character, i recommend asking in the app if widower is an option
I’d feel bad about taking the option of a pair of individuals coming in who wanted to have that relationship apping in together.
Also, runs smack into my fear of making what could be considered a demand just to suit me which I don’t think is fair of anyone to ask staff.
It would really be okay to ask.
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@Mourne In my experience as a writer of characters, marriage means the character will never come off the roster again.
let it be a challenge to you
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@sao said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
@Mourne In my experience as a writer of characters, marriage means the character will never come off the roster again.
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I’ve always told New Margerie’s that is it OKAY if they would like to have a more chill relationship with Norwood than was previously RPed. Distance, time, differing interests - these are all very natural.
I feel like it’s a RED FLAG if someone apps a married person and expects there to be profound love there.
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@junipersky said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
I’ve always told New Margerie’s that is it OKAY if they would like to have a more chill relationship with Norwood than was previously RPed. Distance, time, differing interests - these are all very natural.
I feel like it’s a RED FLAG if someone apps a married person and expects there to be profound love there.
Yeah, there was a married couple who were both on the roster, AND I had a friend who claimed to be interested in applying for the other, but nothing ever came from it. Besides, I entered THE FUNK and that would have meant no RP on two characters, instead if just the one.
But if you trust someone to grab a spouse/apply together, it could totes work.
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@sao said in A Constructive Arx Thread:
@Mourne In my experience as a writer of characters, marriage means the character will never come off the roster again.
I’m going to second this. However, if you do choose a character who is married and the player who plays the spouse makes you feel uncomfortable for any number of reasons, I’d suggest speaking with staff before just tossing the character to roster. I would suggest that for any new player who logs in and is made to feel uncomfortable based on a previous relationship. I’ve noticed patterns of certain characters that always go back to roster. Some have been played by friends of mine and they have confided in me they were made uncomfortable by the spouse/lover but did not bring it to staff attention because they did not want to bother staff nor get someone in trouble. Chances are the person who is making the new player feel uncomfortable is making everyone who takes that character feel uncomfortable.
