Pax Republica - Discussion

[Jennkryst]

@Pacha You don’t even need the ‘except this one specific one’… if you’re open about it and like ‘this player is my child/my close relative and I have their parent’s blessing’ … people probably won’t be as mad as if it’s super seekrit.

Back on Shadowrun: Denver, there was a whole house of players, the Dad, two of their upper-teen kids, and I think a fiancé? But they were incredibly vocal about it, the minors’ alts were all openly listed, and there was a strict ‘you lewd with the kids, you are banned’ policy.

… of course Denver was also the place where you could be 16 out the gate from chargen, so like. It gets a little suspicious look anyway.

I, uh… forgot where I was going with this.

Gosh, all this ‘great setting, handwobble mechanics, extremely suspect policies’ is really making me want to load up the virtual machine and try to headbutt that Evennia FFG code into submission again.

[oknow]

@Jennkryst said in Pax Republica - Discussion:

Gosh, all this ‘great setting, handwobble mechanics, extremely suspect policies’ is really making me want to load up the virtual machine and try to headbutt that Evennia FFG code into submission again.

[sixregrets]

[SpaceKhomeini]

@Pavel said in Pax Republica - Discussion:

Even if certain species mature at ages humans would consider ‘under age’, I’d still suggest mandating an 18+ (for players and characters) limit.

Sure, Mission Vao might have technically been an adult at 14, but she was still child-like in many aspects and there was no romantic nor sexual content involving her. You can’t say the same for people on your game.

To sort of prove (or at least make) a point, if you Google “mission vao fan art” sooner rather than later you’re going to find something you’ll wish you hadn’t.

[Jynxbox]

These do not seem to be people that are familiar with MU*s or the community in general, which is probably why there was such a glaring reluctance to understand things that had become obvious years ago.

They converted an existing game system into a custom system, as is obvious from the missed entries that had not been entirely rewritten, but their custom system isn’t really complete. Especially when it comes to combat. They just have some loose guidelines. And in SW, that’s… well… wishful thinking.

They also still nitpick backgrounds which are almost guaranteed never to come up again and have you spend days and days rewriting things that won’t ever matter. I’ve heard they ask you to justify every single stat you take, even if there’s only a point in it. Who wants to be tortured like that just to get a character approved?

All in all its a pretty amateur operation, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Every place can improve. But all the lessons of MU*ing over all the decades seem to need to be learned all over again from scratch for this place.

[somasatori]

@SpaceKhomeini said in Pax Republica - Discussion:

@Pavel said in Pax Republica - Discussion:

Even if certain species mature at ages humans would consider ‘under age’, I’d still suggest mandating an 18+ (for players and characters) limit.

Sure, Mission Vao might have technically been an adult at 14, but she was still child-like in many aspects and there was no romantic nor sexual content involving her. You can’t say the same for people on your game.

To sort of prove (or at least make) a point, if you Google “mission vao fan art” sooner rather than later you’re going to find something you’ll wish you hadn’t.

Very much sooner, good fuckin lord.

[Warma Sheen]

The problem is people.

[Pavel]

@somasatori said in Pax Republica - Discussion:

@SpaceKhomeini said in Pax Republica - Discussion:

@Pavel said in Pax Republica - Discussion:

Even if certain species mature at ages humans would consider ‘under age’, I’d still suggest mandating an 18+ (for players and characters) limit.

Sure, Mission Vao might have technically been an adult at 14, but she was still child-like in many aspects and there was no romantic nor sexual content involving her. You can’t say the same for people on your game.

To sort of prove (or at least make) a point, if you Google “mission vao fan art” sooner rather than later you’re going to find something you’ll wish you hadn’t.

Very much sooner, good fuckin lord.

That’s Rule 34 for ya, unfortunately.

[SpaceKhomeini]

The best part is I never even googled it, I just assumed those results were there.

[Jennkryst]

Since the game opened and changed some of it’s policies and is now advertising, I figured I’d re-open the discussion page!

Upping the minimum age to 16 and making the game PG-13 overall is kind of a solve I guess. Making TS a bannable offense is also a kind of solve. Not that it’s going to stop people from locking themselves in a spaceship and getting lewd with each other.

The question, I guess, is still why?

[Third Eye]

@Jennkryst said in Pax Republica - Discussion:

Upping the minimum age to 16 and making the game PG-13 overall is kind of a solve I guess.

I mean, this policy change was noticed and remarked upon. I’ll just quote myself from November 2023 when this was seemingly done in reaction to this board.

Third Eye
Third Eye
Nov 9, 2023, 1:47 PM

The game’s policies appear to have been updated so 16 years old is now the minimum (which doesn’t seem to really solve the problem) and also to entirely ban TS, which is a choice. Go with God on enforcing this stuff, I guess.

I really and truly don’t see the difference between 16+ and 13+ and this continues to be a policy that looks driven by 'we want some underage player/staffer to be able to play here and will write the rules around them.

That said, go with God.

[Jennkryst]

@Third-Eye I didn’t even look back to earlier here. Just saw in the Game Ad ‘we have updated to X and Y’ and replied for that.

So basically… we already covered it and I forgot. Still gonna yell at them about it. Take your upvote as apology!

[Faraday]

@Third-Eye said in Pax Republica - Discussion:

That said, go with God.

I’ll go a step further and say that MUs are not child-friendly, and trying to enforce a PG13 rating is an exercise in futility (speaking as someone who once foolishly tried). Inviting kids, even at 16, is a horrible idea and I condemn it.

[Pavel]

@Jennkryst said in Pax Republica - Discussion:

Making TS a bannable offense is also a kind of solve.

In the same way that banning marijuana is a solve.

[Wuff]

Making TS a bannable offense is also a kind of solve. Not that it’s going to stop people from locking themselves in a spaceship and getting lewd with each other.

It will also guarantee staff is gonna watch, and wait till you finish. If you get banned fast, you probably did something they weren’t into.

[BloodAngel]

@Third-Eye ![

Did the empire win?