Re: Dies Irae
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@Aria said in Re: Dies Irae:
props for being Team Women Staffers Can Be Creeps Too, I guess?
Man, I have some terrible terrible stories about this very topic that are wholly unrelated to Scylla.
@Rucket said in Re: Dies Irae:
I guess I should apologize to folks for when I took up the Vamp sphere for a short time. I went in after one guy (I can’t even think of his name) had just vanished and left no notes and left people with vague chatter about having a place for their concept in the metaplot. I found it a bit overwhelming to go in and try to get things situated and as I was also dealing with overtime (plus my normal work schedule sucks), I just felt like I couldn’t do the job and bounced. I think the sphere kinda closed for a bit after that and I feel bad about it.
This is sort of what I was referring to with the time piece and as well as not having consistency in staff (I’m not saying you’re not consistent, Rucket, you were picking up a plot that was started by two vamp staff teams before you after a quick succession of people leaving. I think you did your best, and it’s obviously a very daunting task to try to pick up a brand new game’s core sphere with a plot that you didn’t have a hand in crafting).
In the Discord channel that the headstaffers had where we tried to convince Scylla about stuff, both Charybdis and I said that we 100% needed to shut down Vampire because we couldn’t do it justice. This led to a great deal of hurt feelings (edit: on Scylla’s part, I mean) and a deeply frustrating conversation that I ended up bouncing out of (and I quit within a couple weeks altogether). Eventually we did get her to agree, with the concession that we would reopen Vampire as Camarilla to allow for more possible staff. Almost any criticism of the game was taken very much out of context and as a personal attack. In fact, I had not one but three separate people mention that Scylla had told them that I liked comments that were critical about the game in this very thread.
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@Prototart said in Re: Dies Irae:
@Mushling-0 said in Re: Dies Irae:
She also has a history of being toxic to female players and characters who she views as romantic competition
and suddenly I realize why she was so violently against my char joining the Wyrm sphere IC
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my char was a Hatar and was always meant to join Pentex IC - like, I’m 90% sure I mentioned this in my app notes - and someone was even going to make a character to facilitate it. either distributing Siren cosmetics through her club, or staging private Black Dog events.
but Scylla abruptly and for some reason angrily decided you couldn’t do that. why? “well, conflict!” ok, but i fastidiously avoided literally any interaction with shifters, there is no conflict. “YOU WOULD NEED TO MAKE A NEW CHARACTER.”
anyway by pure coincidence this change in her willingness to have me hook up with Pentex happened after some guy playing a BSD started hitting on me
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@Prototart said in Re: Dies Irae:
my char was a Hatar and was always meant to join Pentex IC - like, I’m 90% sure I mentioned this in my app notes - and someone was even going to make a character to facilitate it. either distributing Siren cosmetics through her club, or staging private Black Dog events.
There was this thing where, for the sake of preventing conflict of interest for people playing Wyrm characters (of the three shifter staff, only one of them was playing a Wyrm character), all Wyrm sphere shifters needed to go through Melteth. Early on in our discussions about character types, we decided that the only Ananasi who could be Wyrm/Pentex would be Kumo. I initially agreed with this idea, but your concept and someone else’s made me swerve because the concepts made more sense to be Pentex-affiliated. There ended up being a lot of rule-creation around what types of shifters could be Pentex, and then the Yeren were included
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This thread makes me never want to staff with Scylla and pine for staffing with somasatori.
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@catzilla well, pobody’s nerfect!
My general fatal flaw in both personal and professional life is that I take on too many projects at once, am terrible at delegation, and then get very stressed out as I inevitably fall behind. After all, I was the Fera co-lead, the Garou co-lead, the Mage lead, the code lead, and attempting to do the metaplot stuff. I started getting very snippy with people in real life, which was another sign that I was better off quitting DI.
But as my therapist would say, “Soma, take the fucking compliment,” so thank you.
"And the Fool says, pointing to the invertebrate fauna feeding in the graves: 'Here a monarchy reigns, mightier than you: His Majesty the Worm.'"
Italo Calvino, The Castle of Crossed Destines -
@somasatori said in Re: Dies Irae:
After all, I was the Fera co-lead, the Garou co-lead, the Mage lead, the code lead, and attempting to do the metaplot stuff
Sounds like you need a single sphere game with a dedicated coder.
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@somasatori said in Re: Dies Irae:
My general fatal flaw in both personal and professional life is that I take on too many projects at once, am terrible at delegation, and then get very stressed out as I inevitably fall behind
Go do your case notes.
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@Pavel said in Re: Dies Irae:
@somasatori said in Re: Dies Irae:
My general fatal flaw in both personal and professional life is that I take on too many projects at once, am terrible at delegation, and then get very stressed out as I inevitably fall behind
Go do your case notes.
You’re not my supervisor!
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Then there was Scylla’s complete inability to, you know, understand Werewolf at all. Jesus christ her philodox npc made me cry at how bad at it she was. Though I’m pretty sure half of it was just how conflict averse the whole thing was. Especially since a scene with my pack, where we clearly were in the right, devolved into an ooc discussion that made me just quit the fucking game because of how badly she ran that shit.
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@Popes said in Re: Dies Irae:
Then there was Scylla’s complete inability to, you know, understand Werewolf at all. Jesus christ her philodox npc made me cry at how bad at it she was. Though I’m pretty sure half of it was just how conflict averse the whole thing was. Especially since a scene with my pack, where we clearly were in the right, devolved into an ooc discussion that made me just quit the fucking game because of how badly she ran that shit.
I’m remembering the bug report from Scylla where I was told that
Roll> You roll Rage (1) -1 (Health Penalty) vs 6 => (0) Successes
Warning: Health penalties have reduced your dice pool to 0.^ If you are injured via +hurt it applies the negative modifier to everything, not just the physical rolls. Not sure if this is intentional?
which spun me. No shame to people who aren’t good with mechanics, but if you’re the lead staffer for a group that’s super combat-heavy like Werewolf, you probably should have a basic understanding of how health works.
This led to me revamping dice to include an option to ignore health penalties, such as in the case of spending a WP to ignore them and in reflexive actions like what’s mentioned in the book text, so it wasn’t all bad, but good lord.
Edit: for those not aware, on pg. 254 of Werewolf the Apocalypse, it says: “The Health chart shows your current dice penalty. As your character takes more and more damage, it’s increasingly difficulty to perform even the simplest of tasks. The dice penalty is subtracted from your dice pool for every action (except reflexive actions such as soak) until the wound heals. The penalty also impairs your character’s movement.”
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@Popes said in Re: Dies Irae:
Then there was Scylla’s complete inability to, you know, understand Werewolf at all. Jesus christ her philodox npc made me cry at how bad at it she was. Though I’m pretty sure half of it was just how conflict averse the whole thing was. Especially since a scene with my pack, where we clearly were in the right, devolved into an ooc discussion that made me just quit the fucking game because of how badly she ran that shit.
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I tried to make my Pumonca work, but the place just kept losing players and losing steam with it. It’s a shame, I’d love a place to play a cougar-man long term.
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Speaking of theme and whatnot, one of the first big plots for Werewolf which kicked off shortly before and concluded shortly after I left in May was this one where the Sept and a lot of Changing Breeds went to Malfeas to fight a monstrous entity. This is such a funny plot point to me because one of the more consistent reasons why people were denied characters is because Dies Irae was intended to be “low-powered.” Aside from that, werewolves and their Gaian allies descending on the spiritual lair of the Wyrm itself feels like it would be the endgame of a long-running chronicle, not something that (at most) characters people spent around 4 months playing would head off to do.
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@somasatori I got big chunks of Renown for doing that, but I had to come up with tiny reasons to eke out any more. Never even got another Perm Renown.
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@labsunlimited said in Re: Dies Irae:
@somasatori I got big chunks of Renown for doing that, but I had to come up with tiny reasons to eke out any more. Never even got another Perm Renown.
Right! It’s like, how the hell are you supposed to top that? You peaked in (shifter) high school, my friend!
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@Popes said in Re: Dies Irae:
Then there was Scylla’s complete inability to, you know, understand Werewolf at all. Jesus christ her philodox npc made me cry at how bad at it she was. Though I’m pretty sure half of it was just how conflict averse the whole thing was. Especially since a scene with my pack, where we clearly were in the right, devolved into an ooc discussion that made me just quit the fucking game because of how badly she ran that shit.
She was even worse with Fera. Like, she didn’t get any of it at all and was totally uninterested in learning OR in working with anyone who DID know and was willing to help her
Like by the time I stopped paying attention the only thing she wanted for the Wyrm sphere was exclusively the narrow, totally unworkable as PCs one-page write up “corrupt fera” from Wyrm 20th. Except Ananasi, where she wanted the insanely racist Sinister Asians Kumo.
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There was also the whole thing with the Rokea Homid Kinfolk PC. They didn’t need to run her off, but I think she was involved with the City of Hope drama that was aforementioned.
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@labsunlimited said in Re: Dies Irae:
There was also the whole thing with the Rokea Homid Kinfolk PC. They didn’t need to run her off, but I think she was involved with the City of Hope drama that was aforementioned.
She was effectively harmless, like was I annoyed that her entire BG was obviously written by AI (including some copy/pasted prompts) and she seemed deeply unaware of the Rokea in general? yes. Was I also super burnt out laboring under the 130+ bug tickets that Scylla said were critical bugs while also being grilled about where my wiki writeups were for the Ratkin, Ananasi, three specific tribes, and the Mokole? yes. Did that contribute to me being like “aw, you can go TS that’s fine. have fun!”? possibly.
Except Ananasi, where she wanted the insanely racist Sinister Asians Kumo.
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The tl’dr is that my PC, the burn out gifted kid pure breed 5 shadow lord philodox was tasked to sit in on a meeting between a packmate ahroun black fury, and the douchebag, newly fostern shadow lord philodox regarding a black fury PC cub’s education. It went about as well as one could expect. (Poorly. There was some player drama from elsewhere involved. (I love my packmates from that game, the shit that player said is all of it lies and slander and I see them on this board. You fucking know who you are.)
So I put the +job in reporting, and Scylla demanded a scene over it with all of the parties save the cub. So we went, and this guy would not fucking sit down, demanding ‘due respect’ as a fostern from a bunch of cliath. Which, to those who don’t know, is basically the college freshman telling the high school seniors to shut up and do what he says. It doesn’t work like Scylla and that fuckwad think it does. Until someone’s ass gets beat, but that’s Werewolf.
The scene went, then we started talking and, like, trying to have a productive conversation with Scylla about, you know, how Werewolf works and why we think she adjudicated incorrectly. I put my whole ass on the line, having played an Elder Philodox in a goddamn NATIONAL LARP ORG, and never losing my seat, which means I know I was doing something right because my sheet was total ass. Things got a little heated, and I just was like ‘Fuck this. You have more interest in sucking the male PC’s dick rather than listening to sense from three female PCs’ in more polite terms, then logged off and never logged in again.
Also, her ideas about how Pure Breed worked were really eugenicist and creepy in hindsight.
