We all have to share the spotlight on a MU* or this kind of thing happens. I sometimes wonder if WOD could have been better if the mechanics and narrative were better suited to that, like the 2013 MET LARP ruleset, since that’s designed for games of like 15-20 people over 3-5 in tabletop.

@OT-The-Real eat shit and die loser

@somasatori said in Re: Dies Irae:

As it stands, Dies Irae has a great shot at being a GarouMUX-but-for-Fera given the way the population is set up, but that would require somehow convincing folks to shutter spheres. The problem being: we don’t know what spheres are required to keep the lights on. We also don’t really know what themes the game has as a whole.

I entirely support a turn towards becoming the San Diego Zoo of Darkness.

At risk of outing myself, I do faction PVP on Silent Heaven frequently, and am the only combat character on my side so my PC often loses fights and gets beaten up as a result. It works because I know I can come back from the fight without losing anything massively inconveniencing, and dying isn’t possible in the course of day to day play. Antagonists check with me OOC to make sure I am cool with it as a player first, as is best practices when initiating a fight.

It is very much possible to have this without it devolving into OOC bad feelings and drama.

It takes actually reaching out OOC to the other players and reassuring them that you are not your character, and keeping that line open. It helps you and them keep separation between you as a person and your PC. Emotional bleed IC-OOC happens, especially if you lose more frequently than you win IC, but just knowing you have that line to reach out to the other players is often enough to make things easier.

It does take an initial investment of OOC trust on both ends, which is emotional work all on its own, we have all been burned. It’s kind of like dating, but for the purposes of making your dollies fight fair and square. It’s better than enduring a sandbox meltdown though.

@Roadspike A simple recipe can be delicious with only a few well prepared ingredients, while gourmet ingredients can lead to inedible glop if you are unskilled.

@somasatori Good deal, Beast is a full deal breaker for me and I’m not alone.

@Pavel I have no interest in sharing a space with a bigot sex pest, so good on them for that.

Only the biggest dorks need apply because of how much history is in there, but I want to make the cultures and faiths of the Hellenistic world come to life with wizards. There is no equivalent to Orders, just Schools, which leaves a huge blank spot to fill in with cultures from Syrian to Shakyan, and faiths from Abrahamic to Zoroastrian. But if you’re into that, it’s the game for you.

At risk of outing myself, I do faction PVP on Silent Heaven frequently, and am the only combat character on my side so my PC often loses fights and gets beaten up as a result. It works because I know I can come back from the fight without losing anything massively inconveniencing, and dying isn’t possible in the course of day to day play. Antagonists check with me OOC to make sure I am cool with it as a player first, as is best practices when initiating a fight.

It is very much possible to have this without it devolving into OOC bad feelings and drama.

I never read the books, but I got the idea that when the dragons are mating, the humans they’re bonded to want to do gay stuff. How far off am I?

@somasatori I’d be down to play a game set in Caliph Al-Mamun’s reign in Samarra while the First Mihna is going on. Persia is in flux but the Byzantine Empire is still creaking along. The Abbasid Caliphs and their politics were highly esoteric, and while we are before the rise of the Fatimids, there may be no more mysterious conspiracy than what the Ismailis were trying to pull.

Only the biggest dorks need apply because of how much history is in there, but I want to make the cultures and faiths of the Hellenistic world come to life with wizards. There is no equivalent to Orders, just Schools, which leaves a huge blank spot to fill in with cultures from Syrian to Shakyan, and faiths from Abrahamic to Zoroastrian. But if you’re into that, it’s the game for you.

It’s very easy to avoid PC death if you just set up the game so it doesn’t happen until a certain point. Could be as simple as vtr vampires never taking violence past torpor due to centuries of their culture valuing hostage taking instead of killing their Kindred. Or there is a supernatural reason as mentioned, like for some reason injuries never quite are enough for final death in the setting due to some blanket Fortitude effect. Or in your setting, it’s just way harder to truly kill a vampire. Don’t be afraid to break the dead hand of “canon” if its needed.

Also honestly I would love to see a non modern setting. What I would give for the To the Strongest Hellenistic setting, plunked down in Alexandria Aegyptus or Bactria or something. Variety, and bronze age crushing brutality.

It takes actually reaching out OOC to the other players and reassuring them that you are not your character, and keeping that line open. It helps you and them keep separation between you as a person and your PC. Emotional bleed IC-OOC happens, especially if you lose more frequently than you win IC, but just knowing you have that line to reach out to the other players is often enough to make things easier.

It does take an initial investment of OOC trust on both ends, which is emotional work all on its own, we have all been burned. It’s kind of like dating, but for the purposes of making your dollies fight fair and square. It’s better than enduring a sandbox meltdown though.

CofD game would be fantastic and I would be up in it day one.

I suggest Changeling/Geist, for the Motley Krewe experience.

@somasatori Good deal, Beast is a full deal breaker for me and I’m not alone.

@Gashlycrumb How dare you insult Batty like this. I was there too, and yeah Batty forgot to water the MU* but that’s not in the same level as being a garden variety annoying pest. Go fuck yourself, idiot.