@Juniper said in AI PBs:

it’s pretty much impossible to separate the existence of technology from the way it is being used

This is absolutely something I think (or at least hope) that many of these techthusiasts just don’t get. They’re up to their elbows in snizbangs per faloop and productivity metrics per powerpoint presentation that they don’t see reality.

It could be used for X, Y, and Z thing! But it’s not, it’s being used to regurgitate a kindergartener’s view of Shakespeare a thousand times a second or fifteen billion pictures of a flower that somehow has too many and not enough petals at the same time.

@Hobbie said in Real Life Struggles/Support/Vent:

There’s a few rules you have to adhere to in NSW if you want to let your cats roam without copping fines

Individual councils also have their own special rules (because they insist they’re real forms of government) so it may be worth checking those too.

@Hobbie said in Real Life Struggles/Support/Vent:

All four cats are allowed total unrestricted/unobserved free roam

This is becoming increasingly illegal/restricted out here – to the point where the animals being captured aren’t sent to shelters.

If that’s not enough encouragement for your neighbours, there are often free/discounted desexing (along with worming, etc) programs being run by the RSPCA or, if in NSW or QLD, the Animal Welfare League.

Much belated:

Jim Lovell, Apollo 13 astronaut, dies aged 97

@Faraday said in AI PBs:

Maybe enough to fool a layperson, but not enough to actually BE competent.

Hey, I’ve been doing that the hard way for years. People need to stop faking faking and fake skill authentically.

CELLS AT WORK

@Warma-Sheen said in AI PBs:

If AI can solve that problem, the world will be better off.

@Juniper That’s part of the disconnect I think, at least if I take arguments at face value. At least one party to this argument views the actual “creating” part of “creating art” to be menial labour.

@Snackness said in RL Peeves:

I would really like for someone to solve my problems for a change.

Hydrate, eat leafy greens and starchy vegetables as often as practical, start no shit but take none either, invest time in local community, and if that fails kill a billionaire CEO.

@Yam Earnestly? Right now, it has elements of both. Though “creating art” might be a bit of a stretch, but “creating media” will do as a substitute: Philosophical arguments can and will continue on that point.

It can be a plaything used to make an image for a character you don’t care about enough to pay an artist to render for you, or construct an essay scaffold. It also can be a service used by malicious, incompetent, stupid (or all three), companies and institutions to replace human labour as a cost-cutting measure without care or understanding about the dangers such a replacement will have.

And this isn’t even mentioning the ethical qualms of using unknown, potentially IP-law violating information in training data, the intense energy costs that lead to environmental damage, or other as-yet unknown unknowns.

ETA: It is a complex and nuanced topic, many aspects of which will need to be decided in courts of law and other such places. Anyone speaking with absolute certainty on the topic (beyond certainty in their own opinions) should be looked upon with askance.

@InkGolem said in AI PBs:

@Pavel There’s only so much you can do with a string of disjointed statements.

Say them confidently and call them policy.

@InkGolem said in AI PBs:

@Pavel There’s not even internal consistency, forget about citations.

True, but a lack of citations is an instant fail whereas internal consistency problems can be addressed with feedback.

@tsar We need to form a pact to call out phrases if we even suspect that they might be funny euphemisms in the future.

@InkGolem said in AI PBs:

Why do I feel like I am reading a homework assignment from doomer accelerationist kindergarten

I’d fail them. Needs more citations.

@RedRocket said in AI PBs:

There is an old Russian proverb, “When your enemy is making a mistake, do not interrupt them. It is rude.”

Napoleon, actually.

ETA: Though undoubtedly the underlying idea is as old as people.

@bear_necessities said in pvp vs pvp:

i thought i was crazy that no one else was bringing it up

I was going to, you know me I’m always down to bring up a penis so long as it’s someone else’s, but I didn’t know if it was a common euphemism over yonder.

I wonder, truly, how much of this is from wanting the older style of game to make a resurgence, and how much of it is from wanting to be back in the life stage one was in when it was the norm.

But I don’t wonder enough to care about an answer.

You’re never going to convince each other of your arguments, you’re using different metrics and seem to care about different aspects of the subject. Anyone here who is liable to agree with either side already does.

You can keep shouting past each other if you wish, of course, but it does seem a touch senseless. We should be arguing about vampire sex.

@Faraday said in pvp vs pvp:

Servers like Evennia and Ares make MUs more approachable for newer generations

This is a joke.

@RedRocket said in AI PBs:

That’s why, legally speaking, it isn’t copying.

That very much remains to be seen.