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    • PavelP
      Pavel @InkGolem
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      @InkGolem said in AI PBs:

      Why do I feel like I am reading a homework assignment from doomer accelerationist kindergarten

      I’d fail them. Needs more citations.

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        InkGolem @Pavel
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        @Pavel There’s not even internal consistency, forget about citations.

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          RedRocket @InkGolem
          last edited by RedRocket

          @InkGolem

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          There’s not even internal consistency, forget about citations.

          You’re just not patient enough to see the big picture. We are all trapped on this train. It’s going to crash wether we like it or not. Just sit back and enjoy the tea while you still have service.

          It’s going to suck for a while but long after you and I are dead that bright future will happen. Just not for us.

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          • PavelP
            Pavel @InkGolem
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            @InkGolem said in AI PBs:

            @Pavel There’s not even internal consistency, forget about citations.

            True, but a lack of citations is an instant fail whereas internal consistency problems can be addressed with feedback.

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              InkGolem @Pavel
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              @Pavel There’s only so much you can do with a string of disjointed statements.

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                Pavel @InkGolem
                last edited by Pavel

                @InkGolem said in AI PBs:

                @Pavel There’s only so much you can do with a string of disjointed statements.

                Say them confidently and call them policy.

                a man in a suit and tie is standing in front of a framed picture

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                • YamY
                  Yam
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                  I’m confused. Is genAI a fun, harmless tool to be more efficient at creating art, or is it the catalyst for the race to the bottom, a “painful and violent” future for humanity? I feel like the original argument deviated a bit.

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                    NotSanni @Yam
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                    @Yam said in AI PBs:

                    I’m confused. Is genAI a fun, harmless tool to be more efficient at creating art, or is it the catalyst for the race to the bottom, a “painful and violent” future for humanity? I feel like the original argument deviated a bit.

                    Because it has. Red rocket is just gish galloping and moving goalposts. Very little reason to engage them seriously, as they don’t seem interested in anything besides bad faith contrarianism (see: their other posts). Walls of weird, miserable nonsense.

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                      Pavel @Yam
                      last edited by Pavel

                      @Yam Earnestly? Right now, it has elements of both. Though “creating art” might be a bit of a stretch, but “creating media” will do as a substitute: Philosophical arguments can and will continue on that point.

                      It can be a plaything used to make an image for a character you don’t care about enough to pay an artist to render for you, or construct an essay scaffold. It also can be a service used by malicious, incompetent, stupid (or all three), companies and institutions to replace human labour as a cost-cutting measure without care or understanding about the dangers such a replacement will have.

                      And this isn’t even mentioning the ethical qualms of using unknown, potentially IP-law violating information in training data, the intense energy costs that lead to environmental damage, or other as-yet unknown unknowns.

                      ETA: It is a complex and nuanced topic, many aspects of which will need to be decided in courts of law and other such places. Anyone speaking with absolute certainty on the topic (beyond certainty in their own opinions) should be looked upon with askance.

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                        Juniper
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                        I’m here trying to figure out how AI image generation is gonna reduce menial labour for me. What is it gonna do? Make an image of someone doing my laundry???

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                        • PavelP
                          Pavel @Juniper
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                          @Juniper That’s part of the disconnect I think, at least if I take arguments at face value. At least one party to this argument views the actual “creating” part of “creating art” to be menial labour.

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