MU Peeves Thread
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@Gashlycrumb I get the feeling that either the staff on those games ended up having too many players on their game or are burned out. Staff need to accurately judge how many people they can handle. Quality is better than quantity, quantity does not equate to the success of a game. Like you said, they also need to man up and tell players that they do not want to deal with or interact with straight up about it. If it something the player can be given a chance to change, offer that chance early and make a decision. If it’s a player they just don’t jive with, kindly ask them to leave. Don’t wait people’s time.
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My approach as a player has been to try and consider myself a guest in the house of the Head Wiz and be respectful of the staff and try not pester them beyond a gentle, occasional, nudge if warranted.
If I’m doing that and shit there sucks anyway, I feel confident it’s not my fault and I leave.
You will be miserable trying to demand attention from people who either can’t, or don’t want to, give it to you - and you will make them miserable in the process.
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@Gashlycrumb said in MU Peeves Thread:
If I have become an insufferable chore recently and this is the reason I’ve had this experience, then staffers have developed time travel. You really can’t say staff is refusing to interact with a player because the player is a chore when there was never a period when they did actually interact with that player.
A lot of people don’t realize they’ve become a chore until well after the fact. We’re not often conscious of annoying social behaviors because we’re used to acting a specific way, even in an online text form.
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@howyadoin said in MU Peeves Thread:
You will be miserable trying to demand attention from people who either can’t, or don’t want to, give it to you - and you will make them miserable in the process.
+100000000000000
But also…
If you aren’t having fun then leave. If you find a problem on every game you play? Stop MUSHing.
I’m old, my health is shit, and I’m tired. I love a great deal of people in this hobby but this hobby became a chore for me. I’m sure I made interacting with me a chore b/c I was too stubborn to realize that after 15-20yrs of active mushing I was burnt out.
These days I play video games, write, and spend time with my spouse. None of these things make me feel frustrated or like I’m pushing myself to do something unrewarding.
Frfr, if you are finding that everywhere you go there are problems? You are the problem. I love being around a lot of people in this hobby, but I am so burnt out that I could no longer enjoy spending that time people that I genuinely believe are amazing. This wasn’t anyone’s fault but my own.
Unless you keep running into notorious bad actors in our community, it may be time to take a break.
cob.alt@Discord
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@Cobalt said in MU Peeves Thread:
I’m old, my health is shit, and I’m tired. I love a great deal of people in this hobby but this hobby became a chore for me. I’m sure I made interacting with me a chore b/c I was too stubborn to realize that after 15-20yrs of active mushing I was burnt out.
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@MisterBoring said in MU Peeves Thread:
@Gashlycrumb said in MU Peeves Thread:
. You really can’t say staff is refusing to interact with a player because the player is a chore when there was never a period when they did actually interact with that player.
A lot of people don’t realize they’ve become a chore until well after the fact. We’re not often conscious of annoying social behaviors because we’re used to acting a specific way, even in an online text form.
I mean this very nearly literally. Not ‘over time Abelard became tiresome to AwesomeStaffer and Abelard didn’t know it’ which certainly does happen, but ‘AwesomeStaffer has not responded to Abelard since they approved him.’ Awesome has no bad experience of Abelard. Little ways Abelard is annoying haven’t built up over time.
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@Cobalt said in MU Peeves Thread:
I love a great deal of people in this hobby but this hobby became a chore for me.
WORD.
For me, it was just realizing that I really don’t want to play what most people want to play. I have zero interest in RPing flirting or slice-of-life; since that’s pretty much the meat-and-potatoes of every game…
…meh.
I don’t feel like I’m missing anything right now. If another game like Horror or LA came along, where every scene felt like it was building toward a comprehensive story, I’d absolutely be down to clown.
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@MisterBoring said in MU Peeves Thread:
A lot of people don’t realize they’ve become a chore until well after the fact. We’re not often conscious of annoying social behaviors because we’re used to acting a specific way, even in an online text form.
There’s also the whole concept of reputation in our very tiny community. If you have a reputation of being someone difficult to deal with, that may manifest in ways you don’t anticipate. Something you gotta’ just roll with and improve upon. People forget as folk cycle in and out, but I wonder how many people will forget Polk trying to torch 2 game servers in like… 1 year.
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@Yam said in MU Peeves Thread:
People forget as folk cycle in and out, but I wonder how many people will forget Polk trying to torch 2 game servers in like… 1 year.
People forget, the North (me) remembers.
Though I remember in the same way I remember my moods: I know that I’m mad, I don’t remember why I’m mad.
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@Yam said in MU Peeves Thread:
There’s also the whole concept of reputation in our very tiny community. If you have a reputation of being someone difficult to deal with, that may manifest in ways you don’t anticipate. Something you gotta’ just roll with and improve upon. People forget as folk cycle in and out, but I wonder how many people will forget Polk trying to torch 2 game servers in like… 1 year.
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@KarmaBum said in MU Peeves Thread:
I don’t feel like I’m missing anything right now. If another game like Horror or LA came along, where every scene felt like it was building toward a comprehensive story, I’d absolutely be down to clown.
I’ve been having a blast running Silent Heaven for nearly 3 years. The players constantly surprise me with the things they come up with. I don’t know if I ever played with you (I missed out on Horror and I was too busy with SH to play LA). But I’ve heard you’re a legendary player, and you’re welcome to play!
You may have checked it out in the past. I know there were a few people who weren’t a fan of the spatially-consistent grid, nor the real-time public RP. I admittedly cribbed from Arx on that matter, haha. So, no worries if it’s not your thing.
Game-runner of Silent Heaven, a small-town horror MU.
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@Jumpscare Thanks, the offer is very much appreciated.
The theme/setting/whatever always seemed exactly up my alley, and it’s one of those things I’m sure I’d enjoy if I took the time to get into it. But Evennia and me just don’t jive.
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@MisterBoring said in MU Peeves Thread:
@Gashlycrumb said in MU Peeves Thread:
If I have become an insufferable chore recently and this is the reason I’ve had this experience, then staffers have developed time travel. You really can’t say staff is refusing to interact with a player because the player is a chore when there was never a period when they did actually interact with that player.
A lot of people don’t realize they’ve become a chore until well after the fact. We’re not often conscious of annoying social behaviors because we’re used to acting a specific way, even in an online text form.
I try my best not to be a problem for other players and staff, even when it means a much worse player experience for me. It’s better overall for me in terms of how I feel about myself, but I’ve been finding I dislike most other players more and more over the years, for what appears to be the exact opposite type of behavior.
I find myself trying to “yes and”, find places for us all to work together, give us all story elements to work with, and then when it’s handed off, none of that seems to be returned or very rarely. Which makes playing harder and harder the more time I sink into games.
Mix in the number of times sunk into apps, building characters, opening jobs, and just things falling into black holes where staff seems to think player time doesn’t equal any amount of their concern, and it all leads to a horrible overall vibe. But maybe there are better games out there that I could find and play. If anyone has suggestions, hit me up!
I usually slip off and go to the PS5 or PC, but I love to write, and it’s just not the same, you know?
