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    • L. B. HeuschkelL
      L. B. Heuschkel @Aria
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      @Aria said in Bannings:

      As someone who is super into history, Norse mythology, Crusader Kings, punk rock, and RPGs, the amount of time I have to spend squinting at people with common interests and going “Okay, but are you a fucking Nazi?” is both alarming and exhausting.

      This, but in Danish folklore and history nerd.

      Any pronouns. Come to Chincoteague. We have ponies. http://keys.aresmush.com

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      • NarsonN
        Narson @Aria
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        @Aria said in Bannings:

        @Narson said in Bannings:

        @Kestrel said in Bannings:

        There are actually a fuckton of literal fascists in this hobby;

        There are fascists in a lot of places, alas. Fascists in gaming is an interesting area people are working on, but the far right were early adopters of online spaces (including back in the BBS days). Their methods will only ever get a small percentage of the population, but if you have so many people you can access, you can get to a much greater proportion of that small number and…well.

        As someone who is super into history, Norse mythology, Crusader Kings, punk rock, and RPGs, the amount of time I have to spend squinting at people with common interests and going “Okay, but are you a fucking Nazi?” is both alarming and exhausting.

        You get it on a lot of things - I have reported a lot of stuff on steam that I’ve just casually come across on games like Humans Fall Flat etc. I have a whole list of ‘Why the things we like are also Nazis’. It might be why I’m not allowed at parties.

        When someone shows you who they are, over and over again? Believe them.

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          Roadspike @Aria
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          @Aria Oh look, 4 of the 5 things you listed are 4 of my own interests, and my history specialization is modern European (really WW2). This is very familiar to me.

          Formerly known as Seraphim73 (he/him)

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          • AriaA
            Aria
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            @L-B-Heuschkel @Roadspike

            Okay, but…

            Squints

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            • RozR
              Roz
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              oh god oh shit there are two of them

              she/her | playlist

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              • DreampipeD
                Dreampipe @Aria
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                @Aria said in Bannings:

                @Narson said in Bannings:

                @Kestrel said in Bannings:

                There are actually a fuckton of literal fascists in this hobby;

                There are fascists in a lot of places, alas. Fascists in gaming is an interesting area people are working on, but the far right were early adopters of online spaces (including back in the BBS days). Their methods will only ever get a small percentage of the population, but if you have so many people you can access, you can get to a much greater proportion of that small number and…well.

                As someone who is super into history, Norse mythology, Crusader Kings, punk rock, and RPGs, the amount of time I have to spend squinting at people with common interests and going “Okay, but are you a fucking Nazi?” is both alarming and exhausting.

                Seconded. I’m a white dude and it’s sometimes really anxiety inducing to talk about those kinds of interests without feeling like, “guys I swear I just like the stories, I’m not a white supremacist”. Double whammy because I also like power metal.

                At least a lot of them usually don’t take long to go mask-off. I remember people using SS designs in medieval games like Mordhau or Chivalry. No it’s not a pair of lightning bolts, I know what you are.

                Ask me about professional wrestling.

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                • L. B. HeuschkelL
                  L. B. Heuschkel @Roadspike
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                  @Roadspike said in Bannings:

                  @Aria Oh look, 4 of the 5 things you listed are 4 of my own interests, and my history specialization is modern European (really WW2). This is very familiar to me.

                  We, uh, occasionally get Questions about that entire bookshelf full of books about WWII tactics and philosophy.

                  By philosophy I mean Himmleresque bullshit.

                  Any pronouns. Come to Chincoteague. We have ponies. http://keys.aresmush.com

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                  • TezT
                    Tez Administrators @Dreampipe
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                    @Dreampipe said in Bannings:

                    @Aria said in Bannings:

                    @Narson said in Bannings:

                    @Kestrel said in Bannings:

                    There are actually a fuckton of literal fascists in this hobby;

                    There are fascists in a lot of places, alas. Fascists in gaming is an interesting area people are working on, but the far right were early adopters of online spaces (including back in the BBS days). Their methods will only ever get a small percentage of the population, but if you have so many people you can access, you can get to a much greater proportion of that small number and…well.

                    As someone who is super into history, Norse mythology, Crusader Kings, punk rock, and RPGs, the amount of time I have to spend squinting at people with common interests and going “Okay, but are you a fucking Nazi?” is both alarming and exhausting.

                    Seconded. I’m a white dude and it’s sometimes really anxiety inducing to talk about those kinds of interests without feeling like, “guys I swear I just like the stories, I’m not a white supremacist”. Double whammy because I also like power metal.

                    At least a lot of them usually don’t take long to go mask-off. I remember people using SS designs in medieval games like Mordhau or Chivalry. No it’s not a pair of lightning bolts, I know what you are.

                    Look, I can’t lie. I would use a pair of lightning bolts because I think lightning bolts look cool.

                    AND THEN I WOULD BE FUCKING MORTIFIED WHEN SOMEONE TOLD ME.

                    Pour one out for everyone born in 1988 who is innocently making very poor choices about their usernames.

                    she/they

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                      Testament
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                      It’s for this very specific reason that I don’t grow my beard out to an extreme length. I already have the tall, bearded white guy that shaves his head down. I don’t have any desire to be confused with someone else.

                      I don't know what I'm doing. Poke at Seven Nations sevennations.aresmush.com port 2021

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                      • farfallaF
                        farfalla @Tez
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                        @Tez said in Bannings:

                        Pour one out for everyone born in 1988 who is innocently making very poor choices about their usernames.

                        I told someone who had an ares tag like that. I couldn’t decide whether to say anything but I decided that I would sure want to know. She was, of course, horrified.

                        Fucking nazis, ruin everything.

                        as previously stated, good day.

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                        • DreampipeD
                          Dreampipe @L. B. Heuschkel
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                          @L-B-Heuschkel said in Bannings:

                          The problematic conversation usually goes like this, in my experience.

                          “I’m uh, y’know, really into WW2 history. Anyway, here’s my thesis on how Hitler could’ve won–”

                          “Oh okay, what about the other theatres?”

                          “What?”

                          Ask me about professional wrestling.

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                          • tsarT
                            tsar @Narson
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                            @Narson said in Bannings:

                            Groth asks if this is how it ends. Result? Nothing

                            lol this is so uniquely depressing

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                            • L. B. HeuschkelL
                              L. B. Heuschkel @Dreampipe
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                              @Dreampipe I think the most embarrassing and yet hilarious situation I’ve seen was the friend with a German husband – she came over to visit and took husband along and he came into the living room and then he just turned around to leave.

                              We did manage to point out that no, we’re not exactly supporters of that stuff, we’re history nerds.

                              Any pronouns. Come to Chincoteague. We have ponies. http://keys.aresmush.com

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                              • AriaA
                                Aria @Dreampipe
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                                @Dreampipe If it makes you feel any better, I once had to have a very awkward conversation with a friend of mine who has blonde hair, blue eyes, and majored in German about why getting a German eagle tattoo would be a REALLY BAD IDEA.

                                He is incredibly sweet, super progressive, and just a great big nerd that wanted to celebrate a thing he was excited about from history! And his family! And his time living there! And all the castles he saw while stationed overseas!

                                But I really just had to be like, “Honey. Baby. Sweetheart. No. Noooooooooooo. NO. You are the Aryan poster boy and no matter what you think that tattoo is about, everybody’s gonna take one look at you…”

                                No

                                (To his credit, this was about a decade ago when neo-Nazis were definitely a thing, but not nearly as open and as public as they are now. So I can see how in his innocent, privileged obliviousness, it honestly might not occur to him that people would take it that way.)

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                                  blu @Roz
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                                  @Roz said in Bannings:

                                  oh god oh shit there are two of them

                                  hides face

                                  continue without disabling
                                  she/her

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                                  • L. B. HeuschkelL
                                    L. B. Heuschkel @Aria
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                                    @Aria I am the essential Aryan poster child. I’m so brilliantly white that I could have come with a swastika stamp on my baby butt. I’m Danish, granted, rather than German – but, I mean, they were pretty keen on the Nordic type. I’m so Danishly inbred that all ancestors except ONE great-grandfather, back to the 1600s are ALL from the same two, neighbouring villages.

                                    I used to have a party back in the 90s and 00s, explaining to online neonazis just how delightful it is to be their wet dream and suffer from no less than five different disabilities and chronic diseases.

                                    Any pronouns. Come to Chincoteague. We have ponies. http://keys.aresmush.com

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                                    • helveticaH
                                      helvetica @Narson
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                                      @Narson

                                      It’s unfortunate. I can’t speak to my state of mind at the time of my remark. I was busy. The quorum determined that I was not deliberately trying to get banned, which I’m inclined to agree with. I don’t think I’m known for mincing my words and “unhinged” remains the correct word. I won’t bring up what current events were happening at the time because this forum is not for political discourse, but suffice to say the majority of us were feeling our most, Gany included.

                                      Gany has been a staple in the hobby whom I’ve always had respect for, even if I don’t think we have ever engaged with one another substantially. It’s a respect that lingers despite all evidence to suggest it should not. I genuinely believed throughout much of this that there would be an about-face and clarity would prevail. Don’t get me wrong, if I cared to speak on the matter Derp would get some descriptors, but the #1 asshole trophy doesn’t go to him. He wasn’t the unhinged person in charge. And that. Is a personal attack.

                                      lauren conrad

                                      Street Cred

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                                      • hellfrogH
                                        hellfrog @Aria
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                                        @Aria said in Bannings:

                                        As someone who is super into history, Norse mythology, Crusader Kings, punk rock, and RPGs, the amount of time I have to spend squinting at people with common interests and going “Okay, but are you a fucking Nazi?” is both alarming and exhausting.

                                        god, for real

                                        except Crusader Kings, that game sucks

                                        fr fr
                                        (she/her)

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                                          GF
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                                          Does this forum have spoiler tags? I want to whine without ruining anyone’s day who’s moved on from this stupidity.

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                                          • HerjaH
                                            Herja @Apos
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                                            @Apos The bar is literally just on the ground and they still manage to trip over it.

                                            lol lmao

                                            It's me, hi, I'm the problem it's me

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