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      Roadspike @Pyrephox
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      @Pyrephox I agree that it would be fantastic for Staff to talk to players as they’re creating characters and make sure that they have hooks to metaplot and other characters. And I think that’s a realistic goal.

      And while I agree that games shouldn’t over-player for what staff can handle, trying to run an intro scene for every character is significantly more time commitment than “normal” GMing. I definitely agree that 5 games with 25 players getting regular GM attention is better than 1 game with 225 players not getting enough staff attention.

      Formerly known as Seraphim73 (he/him)

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      • MourneM
        Mourne
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        So I was thinking about this, and I don’t necessarily think it’s not something that can’t be implemented in the MU* format. Instead of doing a plot ran by a GM/ST for each person, if the game was designed to include it you could easily have an ‘introductory’ choose your own adventure type of thing coded in.

        I could do it, and I am not the best coder, therefor it has to be easily done by the super coders that abound all over.

        You could even do it like Bloodlines where the game asks questions and the answers designed the sheet. Which would be really cool if using a custom system or one that is not well known.

        Damnit…

        How much is mush hosting these days?

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        • ArkandelA
          Arkandel @Mourne
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          @Mourne said in What we can learn from video game tutorials:

          How much is mush hosting these days?

          $10/month will get you a basic setup that’s probably sufficient for a MUSH.

          $20/month will be top notch and more than sufficient to run a large game, a wiki with plenty of storage space for images, etc.

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          • FaradayF
            Faraday @Arkandel
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            @Arkandel said in What we can learn from video game tutorials:

            $10/month will get you a basic setup that’s probably sufficient for a MUSH.
            $20/month will be top notch and more than sufficient to run a large game, a wiki with plenty of storage space for images, etc.

            The standard Ares hosting plan through Digital Ocean is $12/mo and has enough power for all but the biggest games (including the wiki/webportal).

            Disclosure: I do get a referral bonus for DO that funds the AresCentral server, but I was using and recommending it even before that.

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            • MourneM
              Mourne @Faraday
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              @Faraday That’d be cool, but I don’t know Ruby/Python so no Ares for me.

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              • TezT
                Tez Administrators @Mourne
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                Standing up a base install of Ares with FS3 is honestly pretty easy. Faraday’s documentation is COMPREHENSIVE and the discord is very helpful. I hear. I’m not there. BUT I HEAR GOOD THINGS.

                You can even customize using the web portal without coding. It’s not hard to do the bare minimum.

                Just, you know. It is the bare minimum. Obviously customizing it DOES take real work. But anyone who doesn’t have that knowledge shouldn’t feel discouraged from trying the base install!!

                she/they

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                • KarmaBumK
                  KarmaBum @Mourne
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                  @Mourne said in What we can learn from video game tutorials:

                  You could even do it like Bloodlines where the game asks questions and the answers designed the sheet. Which would be really cool if using a custom system or one that is not well known.

                  This takes me back to FFXI, when all the info was hidden, and people sat around hacking the game and running endless tests to figure out what stats things actually gave you. It was incredibly annoying to learn that “I like cats more than dogs” meant you got +31.3% crit but -29.44% luck.

                  So as long as you can also see the numbers? Could be cool. But I would not want to go back to the days of hidden stats and side-effects.

                  On Dragon Wings · https://pern.gaslightswitch.com · pern.gaslightswitch.com port 4201

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                  • MourneM
                    Mourne @KarmaBum
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                    @KarmaBum Hidden side effects is bad game design imho.

                    My idea would be that choices would not hurt the player, they’d just be directions in which they got stronger.

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                    • FaradayF
                      Faraday @Mourne
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                      @Mourne You could run Evennia just as easily on that tier server.

                      For the old MU servers (Rhost/Penn/Tiny) there are shared hosting sites to run the game itself for cheap. But if you want a wiki too it’ll depend on the requirements of the wiki you choose.

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                      • MourneM
                        Mourne @Faraday
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                        @Faraday Oh, Evennia takes Python, I am not professional coder so I only know Tiny/Rhost/Penn. The way I read that was you only offered hosting for Ares games only.

                        I may be in touch if I could run older style codebase.

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                        • FaradayF
                          Faraday @Mourne
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                          @Mourne Just to clarify, I don’t handle the hosting myself. Digital Ocean is just the company I refer people to. Linode is another good option if you need a standalone server.

                          If all you need is to run Rhost/Penn/Tiny without a website, use a shared MU host. I used to use Genesis MUDs but that was like 10 years ago. Don’t know if they’re still any good, but their base hosting package for the oldschool MUs is $5/mo.

                          Though for the record, like Tez said - you don’t actually have to touch the code to run an Ares game. It comes with everything out of the box. It’s only if you want custom code, like your own skills system, that you would need to do anything with Ruby.

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                          • KarmaBumK
                            KarmaBum @Mourne
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                            @Mourne Have you seen what @Jumpscare has been up to with Silent Heaven?

                            On Dragon Wings · https://pern.gaslightswitch.com · pern.gaslightswitch.com port 4201

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                              Jumpscare
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                              That reminds me that I still need to make a post showing off all the systems so far.

                              Game-runner of Silent Heaven, a small-town horror MU.
                              https://silentheaven.org

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                                Mourne @KarmaBum
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                                @KarmaBum said in What we can learn from video game tutorials:

                                @Mourne Have you seen what @Jumpscare has been up to with Silent Heaven?

                                I have actually, I am not sure it’s a game for me, but the technical aspects have really helped get my creative juices going for converting systems.

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                                  Pyrephox Administrators @Jumpscare
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                                  @Jumpscare Yes please! I’m really interested in what you’ve been doing.

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