Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo

[IoleRae]

I used it as a descriptor/observation, not an excuse. I did not even begin to imply that let him off the hook.

I’m really not sure how “it’s a straight up stupid and INCREDIBLY immature perspective” is being taken like that, frankly.

It is my personal experience that people who abuse other people are emotionally immature. They are lots of other things too, but that’s been the commonality between them in my life.

These are not mutually exclusive concepts.

[mietze]

@GF I think there are a lot of people who have had the experience of other people urging them to let something go because that other person is immature/awkward. I don’t think anyone is doing that in this thread. However, that kind of deflection is definitely something I’ve seen used as leverage to get someone to shut up about a complaint. (and while the term wasn’t used exactly, by this particular staff, with the “he just tells poorly thought out jokes” in regards to Hadrix is of a similar vein).

[GF]

@mietze Huh. Alright. Thanks.

(I phrased that so weird because I want to acknowledge your effort in saying it, but I’m also gonna need some time to sit with it and figure it out.)

EDIT: Never mind, I get it, it’s a variant on the “girls mature faster than boys so you have to make allowances for boys” thing.

[Polk]

@DarthSmegma I don’t think it lets him off the hook for anything.

He’s a fully grown adult (We can tell since he’s been at this long enough that, even if he were a teenager at the start, he’s an adult now).

He’s responsible for his own actions.

I find it useful to understand a person’s pattern of behavior, because then you know where the threat lies.

In the case of Cujo and his game, the threat is that he’s dehumanizing every player on his game, for the sake of the game itself.

He believes keeping the game running smoothly, and growing, is more important than the well being of any player on it.

That’s immature. That’s dangerous. And it’s important to realize that.

[mietze]

@GF i don’t know that it necessarily is an age/gender related thing when it comes to being used as an excuse to bat aside a complaint. But maybe it is. I do think that women are on general asked to be more tolerant of immaturity if its from a man. Big time however though, I also don’t know if male-presenting players are given that as a reason they should tolerate bad behavior from other male-presenting players. I always figured they were told to buck up and not be so sensitive.

[Ashen-Shugar]

@Polk said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

@DarthSmegma I don’t think it lets him off the hook for anything.

He’s a fully grown adult (We can tell since he’s been at this long enough that, even if he were a teenager at the start, he’s an adult now).

He’s responsible for his own actions.

I find it useful to understand a person’s pattern of behavior, because then you know where the threat lies.

In the case of Cujo and his game, the threat is that he’s dehumanizing every player on his game, for the sake of the game itself.

He believes keeping the game running smoothly, and growing, is more important than the well being of any player on it.

That’s immature. That’s dangerous. And it’s important to realize that.

At this point I would call his behavior as ‘All in’.

It won’t matter if the decision is right or wrong, on his or other’s viewpoints. The line has been long crossed, and the point of no return has been wiped in nuclear fire.

It’s a train wreck, but short of a restart from scratch, I think it’s a done deal.

[CuriousGamer]

@Ashen-Shugar I agree with this. I think he’s ‘all in’ and his behavior - dismissing people and shooing them along - I’m sure he’s calling them disgruntled, etc. Anyone that is of a different thought or opinion (and raises any voice to it) is sent with their bags packing. Or technically no bags, since it’s sudden.

If we’re looking for him to admit fault? That’s not going to happen. Hadrix apparently has zero F’s in his box it seems like too. I don’t know him at all, but from what I’ve seen of him, his behavior, and his char page - he’s probably laughing that he’s the center of attention.

It’s easy to throw around immature, or some might use the word manchild, etc. But his behavior really isn’t immature if you think about it. He’s not throwing a fit. He’s making very specific things happen. Bannings, deletions, cover ups, posts. He’s being as methodical as he can. I personally think that’s signs of intent, malice, and forethought instead of immauturity. But. That’s just my opinion on it anyway.

[Adora]

@mietze said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

I do think that women are on general asked to be more tolerant of immaturity if its from a man.

Absolutely. “Boys will be boys” is used to excuse such a multitude of sins that aren’t “boyish” behavior in the slightest, and far too often it’s women using it to excuse the men they love for horrible stuff.

[kalakh]

“People have not been banned, everything is fine!” I scream, as I mash the @newpassword button as fast as possible.

[Wuff]

@kalakh said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

“People have not been banned, everything is fine!” I scream, as I mash the @newpassword button as fast as possible.

[Pyrephox]

@Adora said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

@mietze said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

I do think that women are on general asked to be more tolerant of immaturity if its from a man.

Absolutely. “Boys will be boys” is used to excuse such a multitude of sins that aren’t “boyish” behavior in the slightest, and far too often it’s women using it to excuse the men they love for horrible stuff.

Although there will also be the unfortunate flip side of this, where women can get away with far more stalkerish/alarming behavior because “men aren’t afraid of women”. Women behaving like sex pests gets dismiss because it’s it’s (in other people’s eyes) threatening, and the male player is uncomfortable making a complaint because, after all, it’s not like he’s “in danger”.

[Anony Mouse]

@Polk said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

this is just them wishing that if only everyone could get along the game would be big and successful.
They think that if only they could moderate and get everyone to get along, things would be peachy keen.

That’s not at all what this is. They’re sheltering at least one sexual predator purely because he runs events, and events draw players, and they’re either ignoring the victims or telling them they’re overly sensitive about ‘jokes’. There’s nothing resembling any attempt at getting along, or helping people to get along.

They don’t care about people getting along. They care about making people shut the Hell up so their game will stop shedding players left and right.

[bear_necessities]

@Pyrephox Every single time I’ve complained about a female sex pest, I get given excuses for the behavior and my complaints are written off. Maybe it’s because I primarily play boys and so I’m thought of as male IRL and thus I must be the cause behind the sex pesting or something, IDK, but I’ve seen far more complaints about women being brushed under the rug than men.

[Warlander]

@kalakh Speaking of… this just hit the boards last night.

=========================<* 8: Game Updates - 199 *>=========================
Message: 8/199 Posted: Jan 20 2023 Author: Discordia
Timejump XP Updates (Non-FS)

As we approach closer to the timejump, post-time jump XP and Sheet adjustments going forward will be:

For all Non-FS, 1000 XP base award
PLUS 150 per 5 years of a 15 year age-up.

Thus:

0 years: 1000xp
5 years: 1150xp
10 years: 1300xp
15 years: 1500xp

FS Characters will be handled separately. The goal with the XP award is to allow our Non-FS characters to come to greater parity with their level of skill after a fifteen year increase.

All XP adjustments will be handled by hand and annotated per character so that if a PC is shelved and their XP is rolled into a new PC, it will not include the XP gained by the time jump. Only their normally accrued experience points, as has always been the case.

Any Non-FS who wish to change their decision on whether or not they will be aging up and by how much, please either add a reply to your existing job or submit a new +request if you have not done so yet. Anyone who does not submit a +request will be assumed to be aging the full 15 years.

If you have more than one alt, you may include your decisions for all of them in one +request, just make sure to note each alt and your choice going forward.
------------------------------< +bbread 8/199 >-------------------------------

The original ‘awards’ were 0 XP for not aging, 150 for aging five years, 300 for aging 10 years, and the full 500 for aging the full 15 years, just so nobody has to scroll back a mile or two. Quite a difference, don’t you think?

Sound like damage control (to the tune of, ‘Please stay! We’re handing out oodles of goodies!’) to anyone else?

(Note: Edited to fix the message header.)

[Anony Mouse]

@CuriousGamer said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

But his behavior really isn’t immature if you think about it. He’s not throwing a fit. He’s making very specific things happen. Bannings, deletions, cover ups, posts. He’s being as methodical as he can. I personally think that’s signs of intent, malice, and forethought instead of immauturity.

Going by my experience with Cujo and his game, you’re exactly right. Cujo does throw fits and rage at players, but some time after that? That’s when very deliberate things happen to the people he’s just been screaming at and about.

[Rucket]

@Warlander said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

@kalakh Speaking of… this just hit the boards last night.

=========================<* 8: Game Updates - 199 *>=========================
Message: 8/199 Posted: Jan 20 2023 Author: Discordia
Timejump XP Updates (Non-FS)

As we approach closer to the timejump, post-time jump XP and Sheet adjustments going forward will be:

For all Non-FS, 1000 XP base award
PLUS 150 per 5 years of a 15 year age-up.

Thus:

0 years: 1000xp
5 years: 1150xp
10 years: 1300xp
15 years: 1500xp

FS Characters will be handled separately. The goal with the XP award is to allow our Non-FS characters to come to greater parity with their level of skill after a fifteen year increase.

All XP adjustments will be handled by hand and annotated per character so that if a PC is shelved and their XP is rolled into a new PC, it will not include the XP gained by the time jump. Only their normally accrued experience points, as has always been the case.

Any Non-FS who wish to change their decision on whether or not they will be aging up and by how much, please either add a reply to your existing job or submit a new +request if you have not done so yet. Anyone who does not submit a +request will be assumed to be aging the full 15 years.

If you have more than one alt, you may include your decisions for all of them in one +request, just make sure to note each alt and your choice going forward.
------------------------------< +bbread 8/199 >-------------------------------

The original ‘awards’ were 0 XP for not aging, 150 for aging five years, 300 for aging 10 years, and the full 500 for aging the full 15 years, just so nobody has to scroll back a mile or two. Quite a difference, don’t you think?

Sound like damage control (to the tune of, ‘Please stay! We’re handing out oodles of goodies!’) to anyone else?

(Note: Edited to fix the message header.)

Oh boy, 1500 xp to stay on a game with Cujo and Hadrix. May as well add another zero or two at the end since those two are never gonna give up their bullshit.

[CuriousGamer]

With all the bannings, secret deletions, etc. Paired with the fact people can’t even talk much less post about what’s happening on this board over there. There has got to be a few perfect ‘These are not the droids/rumors you are looking for’ meme. This is a callout to the community. I know you won’t disappoint me.

Now get 2X to 3X the XP to stay on the mu* and ignore everything outside the game that’s happening! I read that as - But wait, there’s more! You get 150XP for aging 5 years in something that players don’t want and have been quashed under boot to stop complaining about on bboards.

Some of the best memes about AoA come from AoA itself. Sure take this one in different context eh?

Here’s a fun one…

[Istus]

@Warlander This was probably also done to maintain some parity between Force Users as they are getting the ability to add 2 skills in each tier, except for the final tier, up to 100.

For those that are not familiar with the way the Force works on AoA, there are 6 tiers of abilities. Since this advancement is allowed up to and including tier 5, this is a boost of 1850 experience. Force users also get the age related XP for a grand total of 2350 XP.

There are other wrinkles to consider though outside of this:

• You may only put 35 points in to Force skills each month. If you put 35 points in to a single skill, and have access to a Holocron, you get 45 points. The additional 10 points are not free from an XP perspective but it does save you time.
• To advance to the next tier, you must have a minimum of 4 skills at a minimum of 75. This means that it is 8 months minimum per tier of advancement.
• The bonuses being handed out for the time jump are allowed to violate the minimum skill requirement.

The TLDR is that Force users that take advantage of the time skip will be granted an approximately 25 month (5 months per tier) head start over their peers plus the advantage of having access to high tier abilities long before they would under ordinary circumstances.

[Anony Mouse]

@Istus In short, the gap between tadpoles and dinosaurs is about to get even wider. Again.

[kalakh]

@Warlander said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

@kalakh Speaking of… this just hit the boards last night.

=========================<* 8: Game Updates - 199 *>=========================
Message: 8/199 Posted: Jan 20 2023 Author: Discordia
Timejump XP Updates (Non-FS)

As we approach closer to the timejump, post-time jump XP and Sheet adjustments going forward will be:

For all Non-FS, 1000 XP base award
PLUS 150 per 5 years of a 15 year age-up.

Thus:

0 years: 1000xp
5 years: 1150xp
10 years: 1300xp
15 years: 1500xp

FS Characters will be handled separately. The goal with the XP award is to allow our Non-FS characters to come to greater parity with their level of skill after a fifteen year increase.

All XP adjustments will be handled by hand and annotated per character so that if a PC is shelved and their XP is rolled into a new PC, it will not include the XP gained by the time jump. Only their normally accrued experience points, as has always been the case.

Any Non-FS who wish to change their decision on whether or not they will be aging up and by how much, please either add a reply to your existing job or submit a new +request if you have not done so yet. Anyone who does not submit a +request will be assumed to be aging the full 15 years.

If you have more than one alt, you may include your decisions for all of them in one +request, just make sure to note each alt and your choice going forward.
------------------------------< +bbread 8/199 >-------------------------------

The original ‘awards’ were 0 XP for not aging, 150 for aging five years, 300 for aging 10 years, and the full 500 for aging the full 15 years, just so nobody has to scroll back a mile or two. Quite a difference, don’t you think?

Sound like damage control (to the tune of, ‘Please stay! We’re handing out oodles of goodies!’) to anyone else?

(Note: Edited to fix the message header.)

lol

@CuriousGamer said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

With all the bannings, secret deletions, etc. Paired with the fact people can’t even talk much less post about what’s happening on this board over there. There has got to be a few perfect ‘These are not the droids/rumors you are looking for’ meme. This is a callout to the community. I know you won’t disappoint me.