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    • MisterBoringM Offline
      MisterBoring @Juniper
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      @Juniper said in Numetal/Retromux:

      Most people want to be special in some way, sometimes tactfully and sometimes… not. I think we all get to have more fun when we’re not veering aggressively away from being “cringe”.

      The vast majority of players in our hobby understand how to make unique special characters without trying their damnedest to drive it into everyone’s faces at 100 miles an hour.

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        Alamias @MisterBoring
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          Wizz @MisterBoring
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          @MisterBoring said in Numetal/Retromux:

          The vast majority of players in our hobby understand how to make unique special characters without trying their damnedest to drive it into everyone’s faces at 100 miles an hour.

          lol. in my experience, the vast majority of players in the hobby are all guilty of this behavior to one degree or another. it’s just a matter of how much or little each community will tolerate it and what kind, and that changes from game to game.

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            MisterBoring @Wizz
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            @Wizz said in Numetal/Retromux:

            lol. in my experience, the vast majority of players in the hobby are all guilty of this behavior to one degree or another. it’s just a matter of how much or little each community will tolerate it and what kind, and that changes from game to game.

            Games that don’t allow people to create unique characters in a healthy fashion should just replace standard character generation with a random generation system or a set of starting templates that are all roughly similar in power, design, and concept to ensure that none of this “personal touch” crap gets into their games.

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            • catzillaC Offline
              catzilla
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              People like unique and interesting characters.

              People don’t like players with main character syndrome.

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                labsunlimited
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                We all have to share the spotlight on a MU* or this kind of thing happens. I sometimes wonder if WOD could have been better if the mechanics and narrative were better suited to that, like the 2013 MET LARP ruleset, since that’s designed for games of like 15-20 people over 3-5 in tabletop.

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                  Pavel @labsunlimited
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                  @labsunlimited said in Numetal/Retromux:

                  I sometimes wonder if WOD could have been better if the mechanics and narrative were better suited to that

                  You get stupid people being stupid in every system. WoD has its faults, but selfish players are gonna be selfish regardless of mechanics.

                  ETA: That said, if you don’t sit down and look through the mechanics of the system and excise those that are more prone to main character syndrome abuse (anything that lets you be half one group and half another is a pretty safe bet, historically speaking) then you’ve really only got yourself to blame when things go pearshaped.

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                  • MisterBoringM Offline
                    MisterBoring @labsunlimited
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                    @labsunlimited I have long since considered building a Vampire MU run on the LARP rules as those are at least built around a larger player group, but my lack of free time and coding experience (as that system would almost be coded from scratch) is pretty much a constant stop to that.

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                      Gashlycrumb @MisterBoring
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                      @MisterBoring said in Numetal/Retromux:

                      The vast majority of players in our hobby understand how to make unique special characters without trying their damnedest to drive it into everyone’s faces at 100 miles an hour.

                      Yes.

                      However, there is also a majority or vocal-enough-to-seem-majority of players who do not appear to understand that not every unique special character is doing that.

                      I think of my semi-recent encounter with people whinging over a character who has some sort of vampiric plant power and OMG how SPESHUL and how much SUCK it is that he carries a potted plant around.

                      The eyerolls and discouraging comments I have gotten for proposing an Esctatic mage who doesn’t use sex and drugs for foci, but really good burritos.

                      The staffer who approved, then shunned and mocked, some poor fucker who apped a character whose too-speshul concept was straight out of VtM 1st edition.

                      Mean girls don’t really have to be the majority to suck the fun out of a game.

                      “This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard!”
                      – A. Bertram Chandler

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                      • GashlycrumbG Offline
                        Gashlycrumb @labsunlimited
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                        @labsunlimited This applies to all MUs that base their mechanics off a tabletop game, which is not uncommon.

                        Neither of the Star Trek game systems (FASA, Last Unicorn) were designed for games with dozens or a hundred PCs, but we played 'em and they didn’t WoD out like WoD games do.

                        “This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard!”
                        – A. Bertram Chandler

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                          Gashlycrumb @Pavel
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                          @Pavel said in Numetal/Retromux:

                          Honestly my limited experience of Retro did remind me a great deal of old WoD MUs so in that instance of being ‘retro,’ it’s doing an excellent job

                          I swear I never saw these WoD MUs that were any different.

                          “This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard!”
                          – A. Bertram Chandler

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                          • RozR Offline
                            Roz
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                            if a player is being disruptive about their very special unique character, the issue is the disruption, not having a special unique character.

                            she/her | playlist

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                            • PavelP Offline
                              Pavel @Roz
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                              @Roz Nuh uh, the issue is that I didn’t come up with the idea first to show how unique and cool and mature I am.

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                              • RozR Offline
                                Roz @Pavel
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                                @Pavel skill issue, get specialer

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                                • MisterBoringM Offline
                                  MisterBoring @Gashlycrumb
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                                  @Gashlycrumb said in Numetal/Retromux:

                                  However, there is also a majority or vocal-enough-to-seem-majority of players who do not appear to understand that not every unique special character is doing that.

                                  Everybody has their own point at which a unique enjoyable character becomes a cringeworthy Gary Stu / Mary Sue, and very few of us in the hobby likely have the same level of special before hitting the cringe zone.

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                                    Gashlycrumb @MisterBoring
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                                    @MisterBoring Yes indeed. And for entirely too many people, that point is “When it’s not played by me or one of my personal friends.”

                                    “This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard!”
                                    – A. Bertram Chandler

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                                    • AshkuriA Offline
                                      Ashkuri
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                                      re: special snowflake characters

                                      There are two north stars for Mushing

                                      1. Don’t be boring
                                      2. Don’t be a dick

                                      If you can’t figure out how to do 1 without doing 2 then you’re going to get mocked.

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                                      • PavelP Offline
                                        Pavel @Roz
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                                        @Roz said in Numetal/Retromux:

                                        @Pavel skill issue, get specialer

                                        I need TWO trenchcoats!

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                                          ProperPenguin @Pavel
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                                          @Pavel said in Numetal/Retromux:

                                          @Roz said in Numetal/Retromux:

                                          @Pavel skill issue, get specialer

                                          I need TWO trenchcoats!

                                          and 4 katanas?

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                                          • PavelP Offline
                                            Pavel
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                                            a man is standing next to a robot with a lot of arms and legs .

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