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    Liberation Drama!?

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    • PavelP
      Pavel @Cygnus
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      @Cygnus It honestly sounds as if Sundance needs to hand the keys over to someone(s) else. It seems as if her decisions, and her apparent subsequent burnout (or whatever caused the departure) are at fault for every complaint you have. I’m not going to make any kind of judgement call as to whether her decisions were the right ones or not. It’s not my circus and certainly not my The Monkees, but if she consistently makes decisions that have outcomes you don’t like, then expecting her to change isn’t really sensible.

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        Warma Sheen @Pavel
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        @Pavel said in Liberation Drama!?:

        @Cygnus said in Liberation Drama!?:

        I still have faith that Sundance is the person to make it happen if she comes back and puts in the effort

        How can this be your conclusion after all of the things you just said?

        This is just a repackaged request/plea/wish that Sundance come back at her previously level of engagement, done in a way as though she might do so if only she realized the effects that her absence as had.

        As if she doesn’t know.

        If she wanted to come back and do her thing and was able to, she would. She either can’t or won’t. It is what it is.

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        • PavelP
          Pavel @Warma Sheen
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          @Warma-Sheen I do like the idea that she’s some sort of tempestuous deity: “Fuck the pleas of people on my game… Let’s take a look at that forum full of fuck-asses that I don’t like and see what they say.”

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          • tsarT
            tsar
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            I know that I shouldn’t be but I’m still always kind of ??? when someone can list all the things they don’t like about how a person ran a game and then be like but if they could just do it better I could play there again.

            It’s hard as hell to put these games together and run them, IDK.

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            • PavelP
              Pavel @tsar
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              @tsar I imagine that there’s a bit of sunk cost involved, if not outright “I’ve played this for so long that it’s basically be come part of my ritual/routine/life that is difficult to replicate.”

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              • CygnusC
                Cygnus @Warma Sheen
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                @Warma-Sheen When the alternatives for WOD MU*'s are such slop, it’s hard not to want to return to the glory days of Liberation. But it’s definitely not a plea, I don’t think Sundance reads or cares about what is said here. It’s just commentary

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                • tsarT
                  tsar @Pavel
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                  @Pavel You’ve got a good point there.

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                  • PavelP
                    Pavel @tsar
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                    @tsar said in Liberation Drama!?:

                    @Pavel You’ve got a good point there.

                    It does happen so rarely. 😞

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                    • MisterBoringM
                      MisterBoring @Cygnus
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                      @Cygnus said in Liberation Drama!?:

                      When the alternatives for WOD MU*'s are such slop, it’s hard not to want to return to the glory days of Liberation. But it’s definitely not a plea, I don’t think Sundance reads or cares about what is said here. It’s just commentary

                      From my experience, WoD players like the games they like and refer to everything else as slop or crap or just bad, so we end up with the whole “one person’s trash is another person’s treasure” adage.

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                      • PavelP
                        Pavel @MisterBoring
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                        @MisterBoring said in Liberation Drama!?:

                        @Cygnus said in Liberation Drama!?:

                        When the alternatives for WOD MU*'s are such slop, it’s hard not to want to return to the glory days of Liberation. But it’s definitely not a plea, I don’t think Sundance reads or cares about what is said here. It’s just commentary

                        From my experience, WoD players like the games they like and refer to everything else as slop or crap or just bad, so we end up with the whole “one person’s trash is another person’s treasure” adage.

                        Eeeeeeh the only WoD games I know of are Liberation, Towers, and Dies Irae. I only have any experience of the latter two and there’s… definitely problems there. So honestly, I can empathise.

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                          Warma Sheen @Cygnus
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                          @Cygnus I understand. And I get it. I’ve actually been there myself, probably more times than I can remember. It just kind of sucks at the state of things.

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