Liberation Drama!?
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@Warma-Sheen I do like the idea that she’s some sort of tempestuous deity: “Fuck the pleas of people on my game… Let’s take a look at that forum full of fuck-asses that I don’t like and see what they say.”
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I know that I shouldn’t be but I’m still always kind of ??? when someone can list all the things they don’t like about how a person ran a game and then be like but if they could just do it better I could play there again.
It’s hard as hell to put these games together and run them, IDK.
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@tsar I imagine that there’s a bit of sunk cost involved, if not outright “I’ve played this for so long that it’s basically be come part of my ritual/routine/life that is difficult to replicate.”
He/Him. Opinions and views are solely my own unless specifically stated otherwise.
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@Warma-Sheen When the alternatives for WOD MU*'s are such slop, it’s hard not to want to return to the glory days of Liberation. But it’s definitely not a plea, I don’t think Sundance reads or cares about what is said here. It’s just commentary
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@Pavel You’ve got a good point there.
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@Cygnus said in Liberation Drama!?:
When the alternatives for WOD MU*'s are such slop, it’s hard not to want to return to the glory days of Liberation. But it’s definitely not a plea, I don’t think Sundance reads or cares about what is said here. It’s just commentary
From my experience, WoD players like the games they like and refer to everything else as slop or crap or just bad, so we end up with the whole “one person’s trash is another person’s treasure” adage.
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@MisterBoring said in Liberation Drama!?:
@Cygnus said in Liberation Drama!?:
When the alternatives for WOD MU*'s are such slop, it’s hard not to want to return to the glory days of Liberation. But it’s definitely not a plea, I don’t think Sundance reads or cares about what is said here. It’s just commentary
From my experience, WoD players like the games they like and refer to everything else as slop or crap or just bad, so we end up with the whole “one person’s trash is another person’s treasure” adage.
Eeeeeeh the only WoD games I know of are Liberation, Towers, and Dies Irae. I only have any experience of the latter two and there’s… definitely problems there. So honestly, I can empathise.
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@Cygnus I understand. And I get it. I’ve actually been there myself, probably more times than I can remember. It just kind of sucks at the state of things.
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Anyone else having issues trying to connect, or did I get stealth banned for some unknown reason in the month I haven’t really logged in?
️ Looking up address game.liberationmush.site:2020
️ Address is 5.161.78.92:2020, Connecting…
Error: No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it. (0000274D)
️ Will try to reconnect in 30 secondsI can’t even get to the wiki pages.
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@Alamias Game is still up and accessible for me.
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@Cygnus’s numbered points are all true. Probably understated.
It’s not because Sundance is unavailable, though.
Sundance has stated that model world building is the kick she gets out of the game. It’s not like a novel. If it was a novel you’d get to see what’s going on. It’s like a scale railroad presented in a glass box full of fog. You see the lights go by from time to time. She’s having fun building the details you might glimpse.
And sure enough, a person can build a not-very-interactive model-world MU if they wants. It’s the thinking that such a thing is a good game that’s the error. Alas, Sundance appears to have fallen into the trap of only taking seriously those people who are least likely to criticise her. So she does that stuff listed in those numbered points because it protects/serves/maintains the model world following her plan/vision. She appears to take objections as just being haters who don’t think she’s allowed to have fun with her own game – her trusted group don’t criticise, so she can dismiss others who point out how that shit is not fun.
I disagree entirely about the OOC Masquerade policy, which is, like OOC masq everywhere, a Bad Idea, a Pain In The Ass, and a Boon To Bad Actors.
I also disagree about Sun’s interplayer conflict resolution, which I have invariably found to be either in service to maintaining the untouchableness of the model-world, or in service to claiming to have resolved the problem as fast as possible, or informed by The Fallacy of the Golden Mean (the notion that the truth always lies in the middle of two opposing viewpoints.)
