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    Gashlycrumb @Tez
    last edited by Gashlycrumb 20 Jan 2024, 00:15

    @Tez I mean a work flow, in the standard fashion. Probably but maybe not necessarily a written one. And certainly every game ought to have them, and yes, it seems like a ridiculous question, and yet I am repeatedly surprised to discover that people who appear to be just doing whatever catches their eye when they log on and stopping at ‘fuck it, good enough’ don’t just appear to be doing that, but are doing it, and are even unaware of the concept of a work-flow.

    Yes, @hellfrog, you’re very clever and should write a book about the dumb thoughts you imagine others to have.

    "This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard!"
    – A. Bertram Chandler

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      Ashkuri
      last edited by 20 Jan 2024, 00:32

      @Gashlycrumb can you give an example

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        Roz @Gashlycrumb
        last edited by 20 Jan 2024, 01:20

        @Gashlycrumb said in MU Peeves Thread:

        @Tez I mean a work flow, in the standard fashion. Probably but maybe not necessarily a written one. And certainly every game ought to have them, and yes, it seems like a ridiculous question, and yet I am repeatedly surprised to discover that people who appear to be just doing whatever catches their eye when they log on and stopping at ‘fuck it, good enough’ don’t just appear to be doing that, but are doing it, and are even unaware of the concept of a work-flow.

        Checking jobs/requests and then doing the jobs you can seems like a workflow. It’s just a very simple one.

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          Pavel @Gashlycrumb
          last edited by 20 Jan 2024, 01:22

          @Gashlycrumb said in MU Peeves Thread:

          I mean a work flow, in the standard fashion.

          For the sake of clarity, ‘a workflow’ is a jargon term. Most people outside of the strictures of organisational development probably don’t know, nor care, what ‘a workflow’ is.

          Most games and staffers follow a process or procedure rather than a ‘true workflow.’ And that’s more than enough.

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            sao @Gashlycrumb
            last edited by 20 Jan 2024, 01:36

            @Gashlycrumb you’re being real contemptuous of people not understanding the specific term you’re using while simultaneously refusing to define the term. Like, I probably know what you meant? When I staffed we used to use asana and I imagine that that has something to do with what you’re talking about? But I’ve never seen that term used before and googling it did not lead me to believe that there was a “standard” workflow that all things use, lol.

            let it be a challenge to you

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              Pavel
              last edited by 20 Jan 2024, 01:43

              It’s sounding like a bog-standard peeve of “I don’t like/am surprised by people who don’t work the same way I do.”

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                Selira
                last edited by 20 Jan 2024, 01:44

                as a project manager, lol, lmao, this is absolutely not a universally defined term and there are dozens of ways to structure how you get things done

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                  Pavel @Selira
                  last edited by 20 Jan 2024, 01:45

                  @Selira I absolutely do want to be a fly on the wall for a staff meeting about not meeting MU KPIs though.

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                    helvetica
                    last edited by 20 Jan 2024, 01:50

                    This is toeing into the territory of the… spreadsheets in our pretendy fun times discourse. Reasonable steps to remain organized and keep a sustainable pace? Yes. Turning it into something that might be done from a cubicle? Pass.

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                      YetiBeard
                      last edited by 20 Jan 2024, 01:55

                      @helvetica I realize I’m the outlier but spreadsheets play a weirdly big role in my pretendy fun time. I had some great spell / xp tracking sheets for Spirit Lake and then again when helping plan Shattered.

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                        mietze @Gashlycrumb
                        last edited by 20 Jan 2024, 02:54

                        @Gashlycrumb are you not imagining what other people’s thoughts are, that are doing things in a way that you think appear to be less efficient than your liking because you aren’t able to discern their method?

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                          Alveraxus @YetiBeard
                          last edited by 20 Jan 2024, 02:55

                          @YetiBeard said in MU Peeves Thread:

                          @helvetica I realize I’m the outlier but spreadsheets play a weirdly big role in my pretendy fun time. I had some great spell / xp tracking sheets for Spirit Lake and then again when helping plan Shattered.

                          When building out rosters, I use a spreadsheet with concatenate to populate the command lines to build the characters so all I have to do is populate the cells with the info I want (demographics, backgrounds, description, etc) and then I can copy and paste the resulting cells into the client and POOF it can generate a character far faster than going through any other method.

                          Was also super helpful for building a bunch of channels when we first launched, etc.

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                            Coin
                            last edited by 20 Jan 2024, 02:55

                            … when I log on I look at jobs, see which ones I gotta do, do the ones I have the time and bandwidth for, and then I do the ones my fellow staffer points out need to be done, and then I’m done for the night.

                            Because it’s not work.

                            It’s play.

                            In Occam I trust.

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                              Meg
                              last edited by 20 Jan 2024, 05:10

                              i don’t have a workflow, because i don’t rp.

                              but like, if you are bothered by a staffers apparent lack of workflow or I guess, lack of doing work, idk?? then don’t play on that game.

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                                kalakh
                                last edited by 20 Jan 2024, 05:29

                                Workflow has the word ‘work’ in it, so I’m morally opposed.

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                                  Pavel @Coin
                                  last edited by 20 Jan 2024, 05:32

                                  @Coin said in MU Peeves Thread:

                                  … when I log on I look at jobs, see which ones I gotta do, do the ones I have the time and bandwidth for, and then I do the ones my fellow staffer points out need to be done, and then I’m done for the night.

                                  Because it’s not work.

                                  It’s play.

                                  Translated:

                                  In the realm of task prioritisation and workflow optimisation, my daily modus operandi entails the diligent logging on to our digital platform, where I adeptly harness the power of data analytics to discern and align with strategic imperatives. I meticulously scrutinise the available job listings, engaging in a judicious exercise of discernment to identify those assignments for which I possess both the temporal resources and the requisite bandwidth. Subsequently, I enact a synergistic approach, adroitly collaborating with my esteemed colleague, and in a symbiotic fashion, address tasks that have been judiciously flagged as necessitating immediate attention. This calculated and systematic approach culminates in the efficient and effective accomplishment of my daily professional obligations, thereby allowing me to conclude my workday on a note of accomplishment and satisfaction

                                  He/Him. Opinions and views are solely my own unless specifically stated otherwise.
                                  BE AN ADULT

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                                    Duke Whisky @Pavel
                                    last edited by 20 Jan 2024, 06:13

                                    @Pavel - Can you write my end year review? That’s the kinda waffle that’ll do me well when it comes to pay negotiations.

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                                      watno
                                      last edited by 20 Jan 2024, 06:40

                                      I’ve never known a workflow that didn’t involve dozens of e-mails and gratuitous pings on Slack. So I don’t think it’s something helpful to GMs.

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                                        junipersky Administrators
                                        last edited by 20 Jan 2024, 14:23

                                        … at the same time this for sure began with someone having a realization that their experience isn’t other’s experience and now their world view is bigger so… maybe we should all coach our responses like that.

                                        (My admin hat is not on, just meee)

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                                          Tori @helvetica
                                          last edited by 20 Jan 2024, 14:59

                                          @helvetica said in MU Peeves Thread:

                                          This is toeing into the territory of the… spreadsheets in our pretendy fun times discourse. Reasonable steps to remain organized and keep a sustainable pace? Yes. Turning it into something that might be done from a cubicle? Pass.

                                          how dare

                                          she/her, them/they - not super particular

                                          I have been here the whole time

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