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MU Peeves Thread
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Point well taken.
There are no pregnancies that would need to be retconned. However, yes, I totally accept the point you made that some other potential RP around the issue might have been impacted.
Thanks for bringing that up.
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@Pacha said in MU Peeves Thread:
There has been absolutely no suggestion that the church is going to block anyone from having children. In fact, the accompanying BB post explicitly states that if you are married and want a baby, you can entirely handwave the process and get the fruit as and when you wish it.
In fact, it is worth noting that there is no monolithic “the church” but actually seven separate regional religions and one (largely) atheistic secular administration handling the distribution of the fruits. So you would really have to do a lot to piss off every source of the fruit to the extent it was impossible to get.
If it’s so easy to handwave the entire issue away, then why exactly is it lore there to begin with if it’s just that easy mitigate?
To me, if you can just handwave that, then I guess from my perspective, I don’t see a point in the lore even existing.
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I somewhat agree with you. I was mostly responding to the concern that a lot of people had raised about “The Church” controlling people having babies, and obviously, given the situation in the real world, that is alarming when taken out of context.
So, I wanted to add the context I thought was being missed, but I cannot speak to what was in Spes’ mind when she wrote it.
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I, for one, hope that it isn’t discriminatory! Let the gays and lesbians have babies, too, if they partake of the fuck-fruit. Just how weird can we get with it?
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Did anyone answer if you have to eat it or if it has to be involved with the intercourse in some way?
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@somasatori …I really hope ‘fuckfruit’ isn’t literal.
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It says “The fruit’s flesh is soft and juicy, with a small, edible seed at its center. Technically, the seed is what grants fertility, but the flesh is said to provide for healthy pregnancies and birth.” and also “For a couple to become fertile, both individuals must consume the Evenplum.” so I do assume it is intended to be taken orally, as opposed to a suppository.
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@Pacha The fruit has a single seed, which is the source of fertility, but both partners have to eat it? So they have to split the seed?
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@GF Imagine it being like a peach pit and having to eat that.
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@GF said in MU Peeves Thread:
@Pacha The fruit has a single seed, which is the source of fertility, but both partners have to eat it? So they have to split the seed?
I suspect it’s more of a ‘both need to have consumed it’ but not necessarily the same one. Each person get their own seed.
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My brain is doing the thing again.
If each fruit has a single seed, and two seeds are necessary to quicken a single pregnancy, then how many fuck-fruit plants (trees or vines or whatever the hell they are) must be planted to yield a harvest sufficient to renew both the human population and orchards/vineyards? What kind of investment of land and farmers/caretakers is necessary to support this infrastructure, not to mention the number of guards necessary to maintain hegemonic control over production and distribution? Is every seed guaranteed to blossom and/or result in pregnancy? If not, how does this uncertainty affect the previous numbers? What measures are in place to make sure no part of the supply chain is subject to corruption that would allow a fuck-fruit black market? What are the penalties for illicit impregnation? What kind of snake oil salesmen exist selling fake fuck-fruit to couples who have been denied official ones? What options exist for people who want to get pregnant but are allergic to fuck-fruit?
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@GF And what percent of the population triggers the spawn of horrors on birth? All peasantry as well? Obviously the players are L&L, but how are you maintaining the necessary population to support the PC class if this is the case?
Are peasants free of this curse? (In which case, off with the cursed heads of the nobility!!) If they need fuck fruit, your logistics issues enter.
I have so many questions about this thematic approach.
Like the jams!!
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If we’re going all in on this, I prefer my fuckfruit as a preserve to slather all over my loved one.
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I shared this question but i guess if it’s the seed that does the thing, the fruit isn’t even NECESSARY.
eating the jam is just like taking prenatal vitamins when you aren’t pregnant because you want your hair and nails to grow
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Ground fuck-fruit seed spice. Just grind it like mustard seed, you can eat it way easier that way. Are they giving out the seeds when it isn’t during the fruiting period?
That’s what I couldn’t tell. It seemed to be written in a way where it was significant that the tree only fruited once a year.
(Though if it’s just the seed, is it important that the fruit is ripe? Can’t you just take the seed whenever?)
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Agreeing with this - considering the point that was being made earlier about this being unique as a way of handling this kind of ooc story, it doesn’t follow that such a particular solution wasn’t going to need any retcons. Maybe they don’t need to write a baby out of existence- fine. But it changes pretty strongly how I as a player would think of and interact with the setting. It’s pretty niche fantasy territory to go with this as your ooc population control mechanism, and not everyone who’s cool with playing in a fantasy lords and ladies with magic scenario may want to play in a ‘hey humanity is Different in this one unspecified way that could or could not have major effects that would shape this world’s culture.’
Like I said if this is the kind of story they want to explore, more power to them, but the rippling effects of this kind of decision on theme and culture feel like something it’d be good to have baked in to the initial idea.
I think Concordia mods have talked about not expecting to get as much hype as they did (wrt using chatgpt to make some of their theme files) so I’m guessing this decision is related to that - they’re figuring out something that accounts for it in retrospect. Which isn’t a bad idea in itself, it’s just one of the odder choices they could have gone with to justify oocly asking people to hold off on family building.
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@Meg Imagine grinding the seed up and using it as an additive to a cake.
I don't know what I'm doing. Poke at Seven Nations sevennations.aresmush.com port 2021
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fuck all this “bitty little fruit seed” or “grind up the seed to powder” bullshit. if you want a baby, you have to earn it!!! CRUNCH THE PEACH PIT
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@Testament brings new meaning to the word birthday cake
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@Meg Or just a way at getting an entire room of people potentially pregnant. Is this how baby trapping works in Concordia?
