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MU Peeves Thread
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From the other thread I get that you’re a squad and I have no interest in litigating shit on those games I had no part in, but the ageless grudge vibe is strong here. She wasn’t banned on UH strictly because they disliked her, people complained about the behavior. She wasn’t banned on HAM strictly because Chaucer didn’t like her, people complained about the behavior. She power-gamed on Maxima and Knockout. She was sexually aggressive in the OOC room, to me and to other people I know. I’m not confused about those games, regardless of whether she’s that other Power Girl too. She’s a player I think many games would pre-ban if they thought about it (as she seems to realize is a possibility).
Coming here and going ‘lol this game hates trans people’ (where I think you’d find most of the players have the opposite opinion) is the same kind of inflammatory behavior that gets her banned everywhere. The game doesn’t hate trans people. The game said no to ‘Porno Futanari Power Girl,’ I think in part because (and I say this admitting my own ignorance as boring cis guy) my understanding is that some trans people consider the dickgirl/futa stuff offensive. I’m sure staff there would be happy to discuss their reasoning in appropriate forums, but framing it the way she’s chosen to is clearly an attempt to get the mob on her side.
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@bored said in MU Peeves Thread:
She power-gamed on Maxima and Knockout. She was sexually aggressive in the OOC room, to me and to other people I know.
I didn’t play Maxima, shithead, and I definitely didn’t flirt with you.
And not counting like a day on B&B, I am not and have never been Power Girl anywhere at all ever. I don’t play on this game! Nobody told me ‘no’ to anything! A friend of mine was hurt by something and I thought it was bullshit and I posted about it.
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Like, if you’re gonna call somebody out, make sure you’re calling out the right person. Jesus. Like, the only ‘sexually aggressive’ PG on HAM was the one who literally had the bit for 45 minutes before she got yoinked into a staff room and banned. Because she was ‘a sex pest’. Or because she had the quote-unquote gall to post that she’d have a different take on a character squatted on by Chaucer’s useless friend for literal years.
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@bored said in MU Peeves Thread:
From the other thread I get that you’re a squad and I have no interest in litigating shit on those games I had no part in,
I dunno, man, you seem pretty invested in uncritically taking serial liars who you don’t know, at their word about a situation you weren’t involved in, involving someone else who you also don’t know, for being uninterested in litigating shit you had no part of.
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@renaveleigh I played Thor on UH. I dunno if the logs exist or whatever, but I quit with the giant pile of other people who did, over both the Illyana and Jean stuff.
All the same, I remember how Illyana acted. I remember how Knockout acted. If the Power Girl stuff is wrong, my bad, but again, the player has a pretty consistent MO for both how and what kind of characters she plays, and getting banned multiple times in a genre of game where you pretty much have to go out of your way to get banned.
And no, @Prototart I know you’re big not into dudes or whatever, but the OOC stuff can still be uncomfortable for people even if you’re not attracted to them. You did it, and the power gaming stuff on UH (you’re not suddenly not-Illyana now, right?). You did it on Knockout. If I made a comic game, you’d be pre-banned there for sure as you seem like all drama for no benefit, every place you are (same as Vorpal and Chaucer, for what that’s worth).
Whichever one of you is PG I’m sure will end up getting them tossed off this place too.
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you are fucking delusional
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@Prototart I’ve never been banned from a game where people play characters who wear their underwear outside their clothes, though.
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@bored That isn’t the insult/flex that you think it is
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Re: Canon Sexuality thing has extremely valid reasoning: it’s not actually limiting their canon sexuality at all. Well… kind of.
For characters traditionally strait or ambiguous, do whatever. But if you are playing a character that part of their story is that they are full on Gay or Lesbian (Your Jonathan Kents, Bobby Drakes, Katherine Kanes, Karolina Deans) they would rather somebody not show up and go ‘I love the aesthetic but no homo, so the Kryptonian who is famously gay decided it was just a phase and now only bangs the cute girls’ or whatever.
Re: Biological whatsits has the same reasoning, but I agree that I think they went too far with it. It’s not erasing trans experiences or voices by adding more options any more than someone picking up a canonically strait character and playing them as super gay does.
I think it’s a case of they don’t want to come across as insensitive and botched the landing; because you can still run around and do all the Futa scenes you want, nobody is stopping you, just ‘it was a spell/someone transformed you temporarily’ (this is a clarification on the forum post announcing the policy update, not in the policy itself).
At least they announced this change. They added lactation under the ‘no preggos’ umbrella, which kind of fair but also weird.
HONESTLY the biggest warning flag is the ‘if you have an issue do not complain on channel, talk to us in private’ thing. Not that I’ve had issues with anyone, but every time I get a ping from staff on any game with that kind of policy, I get a ‘oh god what rule did I accidentally break that they are about to ban me for?’ reaction.
So that’s nice.
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Ban drama aside, taking a stance that they don’t want players retconning what an established character was assigned at birth isn’t exactly “banning trans characters”.
I might’ve missed something but I didn’t see a rule that you’d get banned if you complained to anyone who isn’t staff, either.
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hello guys, it’s been a while. i don’t rp, but i would like some logs and some hard evidence?? Too many soft accusations flying around and i don’t like soft things but i do love judging for myself, about this hobby i don’t participate in anymore.
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@Jennkryst said in MU Peeves Thread:
If you are playing a character that part of their story is that they are full on Gay or Lesbian (Your Jonathan Kents, Bobby Drakes, Katherine Kanes, Karolina Deans) they would rather somebody not show up and go ‘I love the aesthetic but no homo, so the Kryptonian who is famously gay decided it was just a phase and now only bangs the cute girls’ or whatever.
I honestly don’t see the problem with this kind of thing. Like, it kinda sucks to erase queer characters, but in the first place, that’s not happening in canon; it’s happening on a TS game with a worryingly predatory set of rules. In the second place, sexuality and gender identity are messy as hell, not to mention fluid, and people go through exploratory phases and/or mislabel themselves all the time. “Woman who thought she was bi for way too long before figuring out she’s purely gay” happens so often I’m pretty sure there’s a section for them on the greeting card rack at Hallmark!
I just don’t feel like the thing being protected is worth protecting.
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We had a similar issue on the game that I run, which is a comic book game, we are a roster game, and we had to take some time to discuss making a character trans. We like to be inclusive, and the person playing that character had possession of this particular character for quite some time. (More than a year.)
We’re still discussing it, and trying to make any transition that happens an organic thing that isn’t rushed but done over time through RP.
There is always the chance that this character gets dropped and picked up by another player who doesn’t want to continue that kind of storyline and we try to keep that in mind before we make any big changes.
I think this is a very sensitive subject, and I don’t think someone making the request warrants a ban, so I’m wondering what else was said or done while this happened.
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@Twinkle Oh nobody was banned for this (unless I missed something), they were not allowed to make permanently Futa Power Girl.
Edit to add: Sent back to chargen, since been approved, now on grid for coffee.
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@Jennkryst The first post about this was that they were banned from the mush. That’s the only reason why I brought that particular point up.
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@Juniper said in MU Peeves Thread:
I might’ve missed something but I didn’t see a rule that you’d get banned if you complained to anyone who isn’t staff, either.
I swear I saw this but now I can’t find it, so I’ll edit earlier post about me being dumb, unless I DO find it. Either way will update for clarity.
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@Jennkryst said in MU Peeves Thread:
@Twinkle Oh nobody was banned for this (unless I missed something), they were not allowed to make permanently Futa Power Girl.
Wonder Woman was set unapproved for a while
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@Prototart said in MU Peeves Thread:
@Jennkryst said in MU Peeves Thread:
@Twinkle Oh nobody was banned for this (unless I missed something), they were not allowed to make permanently Futa Power Girl.
Wonder Woman was set unapproved for a while
This is the weird part, yeah. It was fine for Wonder Woman, fast forward to Power Girl and policy change.
I know trans folks on both sides. Some are cool with Futa characters, others view it as people fetishizing their bodies and wanting no part in it. Both are valid, but it is a weird place to draw the distinction. I dunno, I’m wording bad.
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