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    • JennkrystJ
      Jennkryst @Ashkuri
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      @Ashkuri said in MU Peeves Thread:

      "your feelings are valid" does not necessarily mean "your reaction is an appropriate response to what just happened"

      I feel like this sums up several many MUSH interactions I’ve had with people over the years

      I feel attacked and my only logical response is to do another forum coup.

      Mummy Pun? MUMMY PUN!
      She/her

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      • AriaA
        Aria @Ashkuri
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        @Ashkuri said in MU Peeves Thread:

        "your feelings are valid" does not necessarily mean "your reaction is an appropriate response to what just happened"

        I feel like this sums up several many MUSH interactions I’ve had with people over the years

        The one I need to keep reminding myself of is “Your feelings are valid. But managing them is also not my responsibility.”

        a man wearing a blue sweater is sitting in front of a window .

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          Ominous
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          Belated reply. Put me in the “prefer the grid” group. I very much dislike off-grid RP rooms. Why even log into a server? You might as well just be RPing on Discord or by email at that point. I am fine with small or large grids, but I prefer location based.

          Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam

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          • GashlycrumbG
            Gashlycrumb @MisterBoring
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            @MisterBoring said in MU Peeves Thread:

            @somasatori I really feel like most grid bloat in most games is from PC builds from idle / dead / retired PCs that just didn’t get cleaned up after they leave. I think most games just forget to clean that stuff up when characters idle out, but I have seen a few that will post up a bbpost about PC owned grid spaces that will be removed in an effort to allow other PCs to claim them if they’re popular.

            I allowed myself to be weird and tyrranical about the grid, and didn’t let people just build, and when people left their houses and businesses stayed in place to be sold/rented out again. Buildings didn’t just disappear, but there weren’t that many empty ones either and I sort of hoped that the PCs might fight over some of the best houses in the city.

            "This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard!"
            – A. Bertram Chandler

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            • somasatoriS
              somasatori @Gashlycrumb
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              @Gashlycrumb said in MU Peeves Thread:

              when people left their houses and businesses stayed in place to be sold/rented out again. Buildings didn’t just disappear, but there weren’t that many empty ones either and I sort of hoped that the PCs might fight over some of the best houses in the city.

              From a game design perspective, this works better if there’s a concrete economy rather than the usual abstract ones that are representative in most MUSHes. Not sure what type of game you were running, but something with discrete numbers to represent your characters’ cold, hard cash makes this more worthwhile. Systems like WoD, GURPS, and others that have a merit/perk/boon referring to wealth flatten the experience since there’s a lot of room between (in WoD) Resources 2 to Resources 3. That could be a small luxury apartment or a nice rental house in a not-so-rich part of town.

              Same with resource trading. Most smuggler or equipment-provision characters in abstract wealth games don’t have any real mechanical function, as you can usually just buy stuff up with your Resources background/merit/whatever in your own stockpile so long as it doesn’t require additional skills or black market connections or something.

              I’m going to mark my own MU peeve and say that resources and equipment house rules always fucking suck. The worst options are deeply reactionary (buying mundane equipment with XP to keep your thumb on the players), but even the best ones become super weird. If you have 2 dots of resources worth of stuff to buy every week or month, I always feel like I’m wasting it if I’m not getting new stuff.

              "And the Fool says, pointing to the invertebrate fauna feeding in the graves: 'Here a monarchy reigns, mightier than you: His Majesty the Worm.'"
              Italo Calvino, The Castle of Crossed Destines

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              • PavelP
                Pavel @somasatori
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                @somasatori said in MU Peeves Thread:

                The worst options are deeply reactionary (buying mundane equipment with XP to keep your thumb on the players)

                Referencing any games in particular there, Soma? >_>

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                • somasatoriS
                  somasatori @Pavel
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                  @Pavel said in MU Peeves Thread:

                  @somasatori said in MU Peeves Thread:

                  The worst options are deeply reactionary (buying mundane equipment with XP to keep your thumb on the players)

                  Referencing any games in particular there, Soma? >_>

                  No, no, not at all 👀

                  "And the Fool says, pointing to the invertebrate fauna feeding in the graves: 'Here a monarchy reigns, mightier than you: His Majesty the Worm.'"
                  Italo Calvino, The Castle of Crossed Destines

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                    Ominous @somasatori
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                    @somasatori Yeah, I hate abstract economic systems as well. Fluff needs crunch to support it. Without the crunch, it’s all just “I shot you with my laser. Nuh-uh, because I had my laser deflector field up!”. The only abstract money I have been somewhat OK with was based on cascading dice, where items had a cost and you had to roll over the cost with the die your current money die. If you failed, you still bought it, but you dropped a die size. If it was impossible to roll over the cost (so costs equal to or higher than your current die size), you simply couldn’t buy it. It made you somewhat take into consideration the economics of things. “Hmmm, I have a d10 money die. Do I want to risk buying that cost 8 item?”

                    Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam

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                    • GashlycrumbG
                      Gashlycrumb @somasatori
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                      @somasatori Yeah, I very much see your point.

                      Since the game was low-fantasy medieval-stasis setting, getting the best house in the city would have more to do with status than money, and the reality of housing shortages in a walled city was something more worth representing. Or so I felt. Not that it ever actually mattered.

                      "This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard!"
                      – A. Bertram Chandler

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                      • PavelP
                        Pavel @Gashlycrumb
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                        @Gashlycrumb said in MU Peeves Thread:

                        the reality of housing shortages

                        I’ll have to make a note to include that when I launch my Vampire the Masquerade: Sydney by Night game.

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                        BE AN ADULT

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                        • JennkrystJ
                          Jennkryst @Pavel
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                          @Pavel said in MU Peeves Thread:

                          Sydney

                          Ahr naur

                          Mummy Pun? MUMMY PUN!
                          She/her

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                          • WizzW
                            Wizz
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                            has anyone ever ghouled a kangaroo? serious question

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                            • GashlycrumbG
                              Gashlycrumb @Pavel
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                              @Pavel Would it be fun in that context?

                              "This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard!"
                              – A. Bertram Chandler

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                              • PavelP
                                Pavel @Gashlycrumb
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                                @Gashlycrumb Well, it’s not fun to live it.

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                                BE AN ADULT

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                                • somasatoriS
                                  somasatori
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                                  "And the Fool says, pointing to the invertebrate fauna feeding in the graves: 'Here a monarchy reigns, mightier than you: His Majesty the Worm.'"
                                  Italo Calvino, The Castle of Crossed Destines

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                                    Juniper @somasatori
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                                    @somasatori said in MU Peeves Thread:

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                                    Pain.

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                                    • JennkrystJ
                                      Jennkryst
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                                      The real problem with WoD Austrailia is that WoD is supposed to be real world bads turned up to 11, and Austriailia is already a giant ‘kill all humans’ zone, so when you turn that up to 11…

                                      Mummy Pun? MUMMY PUN!
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                                      • MisterBoringM
                                        MisterBoring @Jennkryst
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                                        @Jennkryst

                                        This makes me think of a setting where the various WoD Spheres have to band together to fight encroaching cosmic horrors and the occasional Kaiju that gets lost on the way to Japan.

                                        Proud Member of the Pro-Mummy Alliance

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                                          Muscle Car @MisterBoring
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                                          @MisterBoring If I ever un-retired it’d be for something silly and laughter-oriented like that.

                                          Got what you wanted, lost what you had.

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                                            Ominous @MisterBoring
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                                            @MisterBoring I don’t play WoD servers, but I would play that.

                                            Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam

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