@Cobalt said in Missed Settings:

• Angels/Demon setting game, In Nomine, Lucifer, etc. I once had an idea for a game where people where either angels or demons and everyone who app’s a character was assigned a human NPC they either had to save or corrupt. But never got very far with it. Group apps for pairs could share the same NPC.

A Nobilis server?

@Ominous said in Missed Settings:

A setting in the X-Files, Delta Green, SCP, Control, Triangle Agency, etc. vein.

And of course Forged in the Dark already has a system for it.

Let’s try this again without any comparisons to currently existing or previous games, so hopefully it moves in a more constructive direction.

I want politicking and intrigue in my L&L, and I want it at the forefront rather than something hiding in the background that you have to search out to engage with. I am looking for Dune, not Bridgerton.

The website has limited information, which is to be expected for a game still in the works. With that limited information, I get the feeling that the game will be very heavily focused on PvE. Furthermore, while there are different cultures, I do not get the feeling those cultures are hugely dissimilar to each other other than some religious differences, differences in the noble to commoner ratio, and differences in succession norms. It feels more like differences between France, the Holy Roman Empire, the Republics in Italy, and maybe the Ottoman Empire in the 1400s (societal and cultural differences not technology), rather than say England, India, China, Polynesia, and Meso-America at that same time. So the cultural tension points don’t seem strong enough to support a great deal of RP about them. As there is a focus on PvE over PvP, economic and territorial tension points seem to be off-limits. Religious tension points also seem as though they will be muted, as it’s a bit hard to have a Crusade/Jihad/Schism/insert your preferred term for religious war here when PvP is strongly discouraged.

Thus, I am not sure what much of the RP is going to be about, as there doesn’t seem like there will be much competition or conflict amongst the factions. Not even token victories, like getting the seat next to the head of the table at Imperial Dinners or who gets to marry the heir or who has the Lord of the Hunt position for the Empress seem to be emphasized. I am concerned that this will just be pretty princ(ess)es primping and preening for parties, parades, and promenades without any crunchy politics and intrigue underlying it or flowing from it

What am I missing or what hasn’t been said that points to politicking and intrigue being a part of this game?

@bear_necessities said in Empire Discussion Thread:

@Ominous I mean, why ask the question “what about this game is different from Arx” when Arx is no longer around? Even if it is a 100% complete rip-off of Arx, the comparison doesn’t matter anymore because Arx isn’t a thing and hasn’t been a thing for a few years now.

And Arx was, for all intents and purposes, an extremely successful game for several years so people found stuff to RP about clearly lol

Because I didn’t like Arx. It was basically the only game in town, so if you wanted L&L, you played there. I want to know if this is essentially more of the same, so I can avoid getting my hopes up and getting back into MUing for something I will not enjoy in the long run.

@Roz said in Empire Discussion Thread:

this isn’t even an accurate description of Arx tho???

That was my experience, and I am the one asking.

EDIT: See below.

@somasatori said in Missed Settings:

@bear_necessities said in Missed Settings:
Take the guiding principles behind a West Marches game for this: make the standard town area be your home base where people get refueled and are generally safe. The plots and scenes run by GMs/Keepers/player-STs-if-you-allow-PrPs are where the danger comes in. All of the in-town stuff is handled by players and any player ST reps you have, the only staff involvement in plot stuff happens when you assemble investigatory teams to search out the Mythos lore. You wouldn’t be running a town MUSH, the players would just be doing their social RP and whatnot while you occasionally (weekly or semi-weekly basis) come in to run mythos stories.

This is what I was going to say. In my vision of the game, the base the agents are stationed at is like Los Alamos for the Manhattan Project, Groom Lake (Area 51), or something. The base is the town and has facsimiles (bars, restaurants, a theater, etc. staffed by soldiers or their family members) and no one leaves except for missions, until they and their family, if any, are “decommissioned”. Mages, vampires, werewolves, etc. can’t be decommissioned; well, they can, but the agency uses the sun, silver bullets, etc. instead, which probably adds to the uneasiness people have around their supernatural allies. Just how allied are they, when there is no opt out option?

@MisterBoring Academia? I had to do that when I was a Chemistry major. The Physics department’s computers, which we had to use for some thing, were Macs, we used Microsoft, and the computer the Nuclear Magnetic Resonance machine was hooked up to ran on Red Hat Linux.

This may have already been brought up, but I’m too lazy to scroll up and see.

A setting in the X-Files, Delta Green, SCP, Control, Triangle Agency, etc. vein. You could even include World of Darkness stuff, but the setting would mostly from the viewpoints of a government agency of “Hunters” and the occasional Mage, Vampire, Werewolf, whatever that decided to work with the agency. The server is mostly PVE as PCs work together on missions they take, but the server could also can go the Paranoia TTRPG route by having some NPCs and PCs belong to secret societies, have ulterior motives, be given contrary secret missions from the Directorate, etc. to keep people a little uneasy and wary. Operations could be investigations into weird shit, neutralization of weird shit (more tactics and combat oriented), covert ops (cause weird shit to happen so we get a funding increase), etc.

I’m still with Windows, but at least I’m not part of the Apple ecosystem like my partner and almost all of my coworkers.

Since we are talking Weird West, how about Weird West but D&D fantasy? This is a really good OSR adventure: Tomb Robbers of the Crystal Frontier

Here’s a YouTube review of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUkPt9VcsWw&pp=0gcJCRsBo7VqN5tD

And here’s the creator’s blog posts on the expanded universe: https://alldeadgenerations.blogspot.com/search/label/Crystal Frontier

@bear_necessities Crispin, the very young Lord of Copper Run who inherited because his dad got executed.

@bear_necessities I never got to the Vegas meet up. It looked fun, but I was a poor student at the time.

I am surprised there hasn’t been a primitive fantasy setting, a tribal culture trying to survive amongst the fantasy monsters and the ruins of previous civilizations. Though this would probably need to be more RPI-ish because it’s begging for coded survival mechanics, like hunting, fishing, cooking, weapon crafting, clothing making, etc.

In the vein of Fallen London, Sunless Skies. It’s literally Fallen London IN SPAAACE! Empress Victoria got tired of being in the Neath. She also decided to build her own Clockwork Sun. Its light isn’t…right. Also, it hates us and is going insane. Spoilers: https://thefifthcity.fandom.com/wiki/The_Clockwork_Sun

Continuing down that avenue, Cultist Simulator! Let’s murder each other to gain immortality!

Crossroads MUSH. I don’t think anyone else in this group ever played there.

I am all for mini games. It’s part of why I lean more towards RPI than MUSHes.

@Jenn

Pffft, my character is back at the bar, so that he can do the girls there. Also, it’s not the darkness you must be wary of; it’s the gazebos.

Because at this point, I think how much the leopards are being force fed is intentional.

The snack of all gaming champions, both tabletop and video: Cheetos. With a Mountain Dew to drink, because it compliments my X-TREME hobby that involves sitting at a table and/or computer for hours at a time.

I still have a hard time understanding why someone would use AI to write their poses on a MUSH. I can understand using it to assist in writing a pose, such as for spell checking or helping quickly brainstorm some ideas for a pose, but I don’t understand using everything and only what the AI generates as a pose. It seems very analogous to this NSFW Oglaf comic: https://www.oglaf.com/performance-anxiety/ Someone who has in the past or currently does use AI to write their poses, please respond and elaborate on why this is a thing people, or at least you, do.

EDIT: I see that @Warma-Sheen in this post has given somewhat of an answer to my question. I still don’t get it, at least for just copy-pasting everything the AI generates. Again, I can understand using some of what it writes to riff off of in writing your pose.

EDIT 2: @Pyrephox said in AI In Poses:

Guess we all just hate the world and want it to die.

I thought that was a given. I assume that the individuals with access to their respective Buttons haven’t pressed them because they get off on the schadenfreude every new day brings.

EDIT 3: @Juniper said in AI In Poses:

I have to wonder why such a hypothetical person insists on playing a game around creative writing in a time sensitive environment if they struggle so much with creative writing in a time sensitive environment.

For the same reason that a person without functioning legs wants to participate in marathons or play basketball? They don’t want a physical limitation to dictate what they can and can’t do and work to overcome it even if it requires using technology to do so? They enjoy the real time back and forth and writing of others but cannot themselves contribute at the same level so need assistance to participate?

I can’t do async RP. My ADHD brain simply cannot deal with the delay between poses, and I unfortunately either nope out or altogether forget I was in an async scene after a few poses, so if my writing suddenly started sucking, I could see me utilizing AI to assist in writing poses so I can continue RPing in real time.

FINAL EDIT: Sorry, @Pyrephox. I keep ninja editing on you, so I understand if you want to pull back on your upvote after me adding something you disagree with.