Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo

[Wizz]

@Roz

Arx has always had a particularly hard line when it comes to this kind of behavior and a track record for banning people who engage in it, so he’s much more low key about it there, but there’s a reason he has a creepy reputation everywhere else. He might not be pushing that exact kink every time, but he’s a known sex pest.

I don’t have first hand experience so I am willing to let it die, but I do think characterizing him as just some poor schmuck who is getting bullied here is well intentioned but wrong.

[Bessarion]

@bear_necessities Agreed. He is a person with cognitive and developmental disabilities who lives in a group home (not telling tales out of school here, he talks about it openly). He’s not the same as whoever had the rape fantasies – worst thing he ever did was have a cat-person droid that creeped people out, but I don’t think it was a sex thing. I’ve been coming across him for years now and all he does is behave in developmentally immature ways that put people off and sometimes gets upset in public, but I’ve never known him to be a sex pest. Granted, I know that there might be stuff out there that I’m not privy to, but in my experience, its his immaturity and inability to interpret social cues that creeps people out.

[bear_necessities]

Yeah I mean we just literally banned 2 people for cyber-bullying and this is getting to a point of like - I’m uncomfortable here, I feel bad for this person and I cannot imagine how I would feel being him and coming across this thread. Especially since no one is even sure that this conversation even happened about him on MSB? like lol let’s just not right now.

[Bessarion]

@bear_necessities I think that in general, we are a fairly neurodivergent bunch and other forms of neurodivergence that don’t jive with ours can make us edgy and uncomfortable and it’s easy to interpret earnest blundering for manipulation or bad actors. Not that there aren’t neurodivergent manipulative people or bad actors – it’s definitely not an excuse for that behavior, but it’s also easy to confuse the two sometimes.

I mean, I’d rather talk about how Cujo fucked Ektor over until he left the game. Ektor is a genuinely good guy, calm and stable and hard to piss off, just a frankly amazing human who ran all of the Resistance combat stuff. I left before he did and I don’t have the full story there, but you’ve got to be a special kind of asshole or stupid to alienate the dude who is literally doing half of your job.

[Wizz]

@Bessarion said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

He’s not the same as whoever had the rape fantasies – worst thing he ever did was have a cat-person droid that creeped people out, but I don’t think it was a sex thing.

If you’ve got the stomach to go back to MSB and search for him, he is called out specifically by name for suggesting a very uncomfortable rape-adjacent TS request. When I was struggling with him on Arx and griped about him to a friend, she told me she vehemently disliked him because he had made her extremely uncomfortable and described an experience in a similar vein. She didn’t go into detail but I still don’t have any reason not to believe her.

[Bessarion]

@Wizz Oof. I was not aware of this.

[Wizz]

@bear_necessities said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

Especially since no one is even sure that this conversation even happened about him on MSB?

I understand why you would be doubtful and why it would be uncomfortable for people to go back and search especially if their accounts are banned, so here is the post.

[Roz]

@Wizz said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

@bear_necessities said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

Especially since no one is even sure that this conversation even happened about him on MSB?

I understand why you would be doubtful and why it would be uncomfortable for people to go back and search especially if their accounts are banned, so here is the post.

Thank you for linking. I’m not shy about going back onto MSB, but you literally can’t use the search function without an account, so I – can’t search on it, lol. (I can do a Google search with the site: function, but nothing came up for this, so I think maybe the pages aren’t scraped.)

[shit-piss-love]

If part of the point of hashing out these tales in public is to warn people about creepers, should this convo re: Merek be spun off to a so-titled post of its own?

[mietze]

@Bessarion my first job out of college was managing a group home for adults with cognitive disabilities. It is really important to not infantize adults. Just because someone needs that level of care does not mean that they don’t have sexual feelings and cannot act out sexually. The reality is that I did have to do a lot of coordination with other habilitation counselors as well as occupation folks and also monitor in house with 2 of my guys in particular that struggled with appropriate behavior. And we did not have internet!

I would never dismiss someone capacity to be invasive and inappropriate in sexual interest and communication because they live in an adult group home. Many adults are interested in sex/sexuality is important/they have drive. Just because someone has cognitive or emotional impairments doesn’t mean that they don’t.

And it is very very important that we don’t say to people who have been encroached on that they should tolerate it more because of the person targeting them has a certain life circumstance. Or are they sure that person is capable of it.

[Jax]

Merek wasn’t enabled on Aoa. If anything he was belittled and ignored. I don’t know about him being a sex pest there or other places.

[Pavel]

@shit-piss-love said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

If part of the point of hashing out these tales in public is to warn people about creepers, should this convo re: Merek be spun off to a so-titled post of its own?

Honestly? From my brief skim of that vague MSB discussion, from three years ago about an event that happened over a year before that, it seems that he had a rather inappropriate request, was rejected, and respected that boundary.

So perhaps we can talk about something more recent, and less vague?

[SpilledBeanz]

throws some red meat, to get things back on track!

AoA staff just wiped the nom counts of most of the banned players, so that Hadrix & Co can bask in the glory of being best. They must feel so proud of themselves.

(The point being the players that were ousted were the game’s best, with the nom counts that went along with that).

Suck it, aoa. You’re a dying game.

[Pavel]

@SpilledBeanz

[IoleRae]

I mean they’re doing a great job of representing their source material.

[Pavel]

@IoleRae said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

I mean they’re doing a great job of representing their source material.

Yeah, they also demonstrate that Star Wars is only really good when an unsung woman (and presumably a team under her direction) did a bunch of work in editing because the men weren’t that great at writing.

[Drowsy]

@SpilledBeanz
It’s worth noting that ONLY the people who were on the noms list had their noms wiped. They aren’t even hiding it well lol

Before:

After:

ALSO the guy that they were so proud of banning was still on the noms board until this. So, this “banning policy that has always been there” (which magically was enacted to ban everyone suspected of involvement or guilty of checks notes being angry that this harassment occurred) didn’t apply to David Ironsides - who was sending people sexual images a YEAR AGO - until they pulled this.

They were quicker to take action against the staffer who moved against predators than they were the actual predators. They were quicker to take action against people who said “uhhhh this seriously happened and y’all didn’t care???” or who were simply ASSOCIATED with the people who moved against predators than they were the predators.

So much for “Standard procedure”.

[Pax]

@Drowsy That this is called “Cujo’s Cup” – the jokes are writing themselves.

[BloodAngel]

@Pax

[Pavel]

@BloodAngel

This is more the angle I was thinking about ‘cup’. But, you know, that’s the angle I’m always thinking.