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Enjoy the Reads!! (Admin: ETA a content warning. It's THE LOG from The Pack thread.)
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@IoleRae Assuming it was Macha or someone on her behalf, I think in addition to what you said, they were trying to show “see, this person wanted it/liked it!”. Trying to paint Macha in a good light and the other player in a bad light.
Gross.
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@dvoraen Honestly if it’s Macha I’m surprised she didn’t make more noise after being asked to edit the name out. I think it’s likely a minion. Either way though I have no interest trying to imagine what warped justification summersaults go on in her brain.
I do think it’s important to not give this thread anymore attention. Obviously everyone is an adult and can post how they want. I just don’t think Macha deserves anymore of the attention (whether this user is now her or not) than we’ve already given her concerning this topic and that she’s likely narcissistically been loving.
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I’m not sure what is more cringe to me: being a gross, gaslighting creep like this player or being one of their flying monkeys.
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@SockMonkey the OP didn’t edit the post. Admin stepped in and removed the name and put a tag on the title of the thread.
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What’s mind-boggling to me is the idea that Macha looks even remotely better based on more log being shared. Frankly it just seems more apparent that this was an ongoing campaign or plan wherein she was fixated on this person who was engaging in good faith like all of her weird bullshit was actually all IC and they might be dealing with a normal rper under all of the weird subjunctive tense.
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To Sock’s point, maybe we shouldn’t bring attention to the thread. If anything, make a new Thread about Macha Awareness?
Maybe we could piece together whom she’s been (and what damage she’s done on games) so people are aware? She’s been around the community a long time it sounds like, and I don’t even know all the games she’s been on and people affected.
At this point it’s not just one or two games. There’s interconnectedness between games, community, and underhanded attempts to manipulate Cobalt. I wonder what else has been done? With someone trying to manipulate people across different mu*'s I suppose a good way to get it out there is to talk about it.
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@Herja said in Enjoy the Reads!! (Admin: ETA a content warning. It's THE LOG from The Pack thread.):
I’m not sure what is more cringe to me: being a gross, gaslighting creep like this player or being one of their flying monkeys.
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LOLOL and Gany banned us all to protect this nasty weirdo
this hobby, man
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@KarmaBum So I have the general gist of the musoapbox explosion without the behind the scenes context. I don’t remember Macha coming up much, most what I read was about the bannings and the admin choices. Was Macha really that involved? I saw the thing about baiting people by DM mentioned recently.
And you know, every player makes mistakes. Sometimes we overstep, or we put up with something longer than we should have. Sometimes players do change. Behave. Mature. We’re part of a community and yes we can watch people for a genuine change and if they do change - I’d say I’ve often been open to them.
But in order to change there has to be a genuine want to do so. There are some people who don’t, and genuinely seem to enjoy stryfe, chaos. Macha seems to be one of them. I do think that this person will continue to show up. Again and again. She doesn’t seem to be genuine, and if anything over time becomes craftier and more connected.
I guess what can you do about something like that? I’m not really sure myself.
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@CuriousGamer Macha baited someone in their DMs, then reported said person, then Gany banned said person and the rest of us got banned for defending said person and not defending Macha.
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she also kinda stood by giddily, acting like the victim when JUST LIKE IN THIS LOG, she is the asshole
funnily enough, once we were all gone, MSB turned into Macha whining about her life once a week and no one replying instead of the deeply philosophical well promised when the silent majority was finally untethered
because
WAIT FOR THE PLOT TWIST
Macha is nasty and not worth talking to
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I’m trying to figure out how my brain wants to respond to having read all this shit. Maybe this is fitting.
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I feel like we should let this thread die and create a general Macha thread without her apparent gloating at the top. I personally don’t feel comfortable with the full log being on blast in this way.
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@Jumpscare I feel like we just shouldn’t give Macha anymore screentime in general. Even if it’s bad attention she’ll thrive on it. I say make a general awareness one of what to look out for in toxic mushers, but other than that don’t give her the satisfaction of remaining on our radars.
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Also apparently Macha is logging onto other games as a Guest and messaging people that she is not guilty of what she’s being accused of here. Which could be a response to being banned from Pack or prove that she is connected to this thread.
I’ll say this and then honestly done because I have my own history with Macha and am not looking to get triggered today. I was one of the support staff on Pack and know the other staff member. Cobalt shared the log on first thread. I didn’t share this one, I know the other staff didn’t and nobody else would have it other than Macha and the other participant. Who likely wouldn’t want anymore attention brought to themselves. So unless she shared it with a minion to do her campaigning, it is definitely Macha.
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@SockMonkey said in Enjoy the Reads!! (Admin: ETA a content warning. It's THE LOG from The Pack thread.):
@Jumpscare I feel like we just shouldn’t give Macha anymore screentime in general. Even if it’s bad attention she’ll thrive on it.
I actually don’t think this is true. My experience with Macha is about a decade old at this point, but what I’ve seen and heard of her more recent behavior, she hasn’t changed. And the Macha I know doesn’t actually troll for attention. She has a deep need for control of every situation in order to try and put herself in the best light. She hates being accused of bad behavior. She will never, ever accept culpability in anything.
A thread like this is probably making her furious. This is further evidenced, in my view, by the reports that she’s logging on other places to insist on her innocence.
So, yeah, I don’t think exposing her behavior is giving her any sort of enjoyment.
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I’ve made a new thread for Macha, I’m not sure how the linking is done, but maybe one of the Admins would be kind enough to help with that?
https://brandmuday.mythicus.net/topic/330/macha-awareness-and-unappreciation-thread
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@Roz said in Enjoy the Reads!! (Admin: ETA a content warning. It's THE LOG from The Pack thread.):
A thread like this is probably making her furious.