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    • KarmaBumK
      KarmaBum @Warma Sheen
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      @Warma-Sheen said in MU Peeves Thread:

      BTW, in case you missed it, my thoughts on 2043 winding down were fairly accurate and confirmed by the Director’s player shortly after, so feel free to acknowledge that. Or not.

      Where did this happen? Please show me.

      Because this is exactly what my problem with you is. You do not have your finger on the pulse of anything, but you post with this “I know what’s up” mentality.

      I talk to this person every single day. I am pretty sure you do not. And your theory about why he closed the game (lack of support) is wrong. He posted in and told you it was wrong - which, after what a PITA you were on LA, is more than you deserve - and you still read it as you being right.

      Plus, you’re jumping to the defense of someone I know for sure is telling lies about me and why I banned her.

      So yes. I got beef with you.

      There’s probably more in your post to respond to, but this is the meat of it.

      On Dragon Wings · https://pern.gaslightswitch.com · pern.gaslightswitch.com port 4201

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      • PavelP
        Pavel
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        popcorn

        He/Him. Opinions and views are solely my own unless specifically stated otherwise.
        BE AN ADULT

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        • TezT
          Tez Administrators
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          Just saying TY to @KarmaBum for moving the brawl into the Rough and Rowdy peeves thread like a true hero instead of keeping it in the game gab concordia thread.

          Okay, that’s it, HAVE AT.

          she/they

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          • MegM
            Meg @Tez
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            @Tez you should pay her for doing your job for you. what salary do you get here? time to split it.

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            • TezT
              Tez Administrators @Meg
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              @Meg My salary is actually in the negative here so instead of paying her I’ll just say nice things in her vague direction.

              she/they

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              • KarmaBumK
                KarmaBum @Tez
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                @Tez said in MU Peeves Thread:

                Just saying TY to @KarmaBum for moving the brawl into the Rough and Rowdy peeves thread like a true hero instead of keeping it in the game gab concordia thread.

                Okay, that’s it, HAVE AT.

                omg i feel so noticed

                but also ❤ I appreciate what y’all do up in here to try and keep things fair and level. ❤

                On Dragon Wings · https://pern.gaslightswitch.com · pern.gaslightswitch.com port 4201

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                • bear_necessitiesB
                  bear_necessities @Warma Sheen
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                  @Warma-Sheen You seem to consistently enjoy being a giant pain in the ass. I’d say that you have no awareness of it but I think you actually do and that’s what gets me. You trying to turn getting called out into some kinda form of ‘targeted harassment’ while insulting, name-calling and being hateful (all while saying you don’t have to be mean and nasty) is laughable at best but honestly truly exhausting.

                  You didn’t know what you’re talking about when it comes to LA. You leapt to the defense of a predator. You came onto a discussion for a game in a genre you aren’t even interested in playing to not so lowkey accuse the gamerunners of racism. Now you’re coming at @KarmaBum for just pointing out the obvious and trying to paint yourself as some innocent victim or whatever. Just stop it, no one is buying what you’re selling.

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                  • RozR
                    Roz
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                    Just gonna say it: Warma might be a pain in the butt, but if almost anyone else had been the first to bring up that particular Concordia issue – like if helvetica had said it first rather than being the first to agree – it would not have gotten a response of “no one would ever care about this.”

                    she/her | playlist

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                      RightMeow
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                      I’m not invalidating anyone or anyone’s experience as that is not what I’m about. I’m also not choosing sides because I really don’t have one.

                      My only issue in this thread currently is that we (I say we because we are a community meaning we are awesome as one and not so awesome as one) are starting down a road of personal attacks.

                      It’s okay not to agree. It’s okay to put comments on a thread that you have a lot of information about or no information about. It’s okay to have a perspective that is you specific. It’s okay to call people out on that. Great.

                      It’s starting to come as an attack though and I’d like to politely request we tone that back a bit.

                      I say this with no admin power or no power at all, just a request. Which means it can be ignored.

                      Let’s just try to be kind when we can.

                      Thanks for reading!

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                      • OmenO
                        Omen @Warma Sheen
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                        BTW, in case you missed it, my thoughts on 2043 winding down were fairly accurate and confirmed by the Director’s player shortly after, so feel free to acknowledge that. Or not. You don’t have to be at all reasonable in your crusade, or even connected to reality, but it does take a big dent out of your entire premise that I don’t know what I’m talking about.

                        Sorry, but they were not fairly accurate. You made a lot of assumptions about game runners like Director lacking “patience and support” and “doing it alone” and not having “the support they needed to keep it going.” As one of three staffers on that game, I feel we did just fine with the workload we had, and Director had patience in spades. He responded quickly and always handled things respectfully and treated players with kindness, you included.

                        You always have the choice: stay and enjoy what a game runner can offer for as long as they offer it or go open your own game. Get your big team together and write hours and hours of lore and then tell your stories for people. Oh, and hope and pray against all odds that nothing pressing in your RL comes up, because you’ll have to put your game and its players first, above everything else. Apparently, that’s the only way it’ll hold any value in your eyes.

                        Try to remember that there are people with feelings behind these staff bits that put a lot of their time and creative energy into something that didn’t work out in the end, and nobody could be more sensitive or aware of that reality than they are.

                        Good day.

                        I could never grow trees
                        Still I planted my seeds

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                        • KarmaBumK
                          KarmaBum @Roz
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                          @Roz said in MU Peeves Thread:

                          Just gonna say it: Warma might be a pain in the butt, but if almost anyone else had been the first…

                          Oh, no question about it. I absolutely jumped on it. But it’s not like this is an isolated incident.

                          He’s spewing bullshit about people I consider friends, in a thread about a game he doesn’t intend to play.
                          After he spewed bullshit about people I consider friends, in a thread about a game where he quit at one point then returned to without so much as acknowledging or apologizing for what a fucking weirdo he was.
                          While spewing bullshit about people I consider friends, in a thread about a game where he actually does play (shocker) while defending someone I know first-hand is lying about me.

                          As soon as he stops making up shit and posting it here as cold-hard-facts, I’ll get off his “jock,” as he put it.

                          On Dragon Wings · https://pern.gaslightswitch.com · pern.gaslightswitch.com port 4201

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                          • CoinC
                            Coin @KarmaBum
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                            @KarmaBum said in MU Peeves Thread:

                            @Roz said in MU Peeves Thread:

                            Just gonna say it: Warma might be a pain in the butt, but if almost anyone else had been the first…

                            Oh, no question about it. I absolutely jumped on it. But it’s not like this is an isolated incident.

                            He’s spewing bullshit about people I consider friends, in a thread about a game he doesn’t intend to play.
                            After he spewed bullshit about people I consider friends, in a thread about a game where he quit at one point then returned to without so much as acknowledging or apologizing for what a fucking weirdo he was.
                            While spewing bullshit about people I consider friends, in a thread about a game where he actually does play (shocker) while defending someone I know first-hand is lying about me.

                            As soon as he stops making up shit and posting it here as cold-hard-facts, I’ll get off his “jock,” as he put it.

                            I think the point is that plenty of us have beef with other people on this forum, but disregarding and dismissing a legitimate grievance based on that beef is a pretty bad look. You can call people out for being mean to your friends without literally dismissing (“zero people”) a legitimate point they make.

                            In Occam I trust.

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                            • KarmaBumK
                              KarmaBum @Coin
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                              @Coin You’re right, and I apologize for that. I’m not gonna edit the post, 'cause seems like an even worse look, but you’re right to call me on it. I did exactly the thing I was complaining about.

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                              • bear_necessitiesB
                                bear_necessities @Coin
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                                Was it really a “legitimate” grievance? Or was it a thinly veiled accusation that he CONTINUED TO MAKE even after the gamerunner came on the board to note that there are story purposes, etc? You say potato, I say po-ta-toe I suppose.

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                                  mietze
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                                  for many reasons both mush related and not i’m really sick of the “keep sweet” mentality that is often pushed on people who push back when someone is being ugly. it’s honestly rather repulsive to me. i’ve had to deal with a lot of “be kind/put other people’s comfort above your own/shut up” through most of my life. i don’t feel particularly bound to be kind to someone who threw shade at a game runner about being irresponsible because the game didn’t last for the amount of time that they thought it would and then even insinuated that maybe they shouldn’t have made the game in the first place because of that. along with the ‘hmm if you’re not perfect maybe you shouldn’t say anything because you know you’re both not perfect’ stuff. that kind of stuff should have died in the 90s and i think it should be called out bluntly every single damn time.

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                                  • RozR
                                    Roz @bear_necessities
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                                    @bear_necessities said in MU Peeves Thread:

                                    Was it really a “legitimate” grievance? Or was it a thinly veiled accusation that he CONTINUED TO MAKE even after the gamerunner came on the board to note that there are story purposes, etc? You say potato, I say po-ta-toe I suppose.

                                    I mean, multiple other people in the thread also agreed with having some bad feelings about it? Something having story reasons doesn’t mean people can’t take issue with it.

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                                    • CoinC
                                      Coin @bear_necessities
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                                      @bear_necessities said in MU Peeves Thread:

                                      Was it really a “legitimate” grievance? Or was it a thinly veiled accusation that he CONTINUED TO MAKE even after the gamerunner came on the board to note that there are story purposes, etc? You say potato, I say po-ta-toe I suppose.

                                      it was clearly a legitimate grievance if we’re out here agreeing that if anyone else had said it, the response would have been different.

                                      @mietze said in MU Peeves Thread:

                                      for many reasons both mush related and not i’m really sick of the “keep sweet” mentality that is often pushed on people who push back when someone is being ugly. it’s honestly rather repulsive to me. i’ve had to deal with a lot through most of my life. i don’t feel particularly bound to be kind to someone who threw shade at a game runner about being irresponsible because the game didn’t last for the amount of time that they thought it would and then even insinuated that maybe they shouldn’t have made the game in the first place because of that. along with the ‘hmm if you’re not perfect maybe you shouldn’t say anything because you know you’re both not perfect’ stuff. that kind of stuff should have died in the 90s and i think it should be called out bluntly every single damn time.

                                      I mean, agreed. I could not possibly care any fucking less if KB and Warma Sheen want to have it out to see who can out-argue the other. But by that same logic you’re using, is it not adequate to point out that someone being mean to your friend isn’t some blanket reason to dismiss a point they made?

                                      Because let’s stop pretending the rest of us aren’t guilty of making snide accusations and passive aggressive claims on these forums, for the most part, lol. I couldn’t give two shits about Warma Sheen or KarmaBum, I ain’t got a horse in this race, but you don’t get to change the rules of the race because someone was mean.

                                      In Occam I trust.

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                                      • RozR
                                        Roz @Coin
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                                        @Coin said in MU Peeves Thread:

                                        I mean, agreed. I could not possibly care any fucking less if KB and Warma Sheen want to have it out to see who can out-argue the other. But by that same logic you’re using, is it not adequate to point out that someone being mean to your friend isn’t some blanket reason to dismiss a point they made?

                                        I kind of read mietze’s post as being a response to RightMeow’s, not the rest of the discussion. I could be wrong!

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                                        • CoinC
                                          Coin @Roz
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                                          @Roz said in MU Peeves Thread:

                                          @Coin said in MU Peeves Thread:

                                          I mean, agreed. I could not possibly care any fucking less if KB and Warma Sheen want to have it out to see who can out-argue the other. But by that same logic you’re using, is it not adequate to point out that someone being mean to your friend isn’t some blanket reason to dismiss a point they made?

                                          I kind of read mietze’s post as being a response to RightMeow’s, not the rest of the discussion. I could be wrong!

                                          … dang, that’s probably true.

                                          I mean my point still stands, though I apologize, @mietze, for the more aggressive tone in my response due to my misunderstanding!

                                          In Occam I trust.

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                                            mietze @Coin
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                                            @Coin i don’t really care if people get annoyed and short with each other. we’ve all done it. and yeah, it’s good to take a step back and read through what people are saying. that’s not what i am talking about.

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