MU Peeves Thread

[catzilla]

@mietze There’s a huge difference between playing an attractive character and having it as a hook for your character. Just as there is a difference between including in your poses that your character turns heads to making every pose about super hot your character is.

I do the same side eye at characters who have a RP hook (or constantly pose about) how rawr big their character is.

If these are things you want to have included in your RP, there’s more interesting ways to go about it.

Example, instead of ‘my character is pretty, RP with me!’ you could put ‘my character enjoys taking care of themselves, let’s do a spa day’. Or instead of ‘my character is rawr big’ you could put ‘my character frequently does strength training, let’s go to the gym’.

[mietze]

@catzilla i understand. It’s just that when I see those mistakes I think wow they’re not very good at writing rp hooks before they have a chance to rp the character/maybe they don’t have a sense of them yet. So maybe I’m just willing to give them more benefit of the doubt than some. I’ve seen a lot of looks great on wiki pcs that were very difficult to RP with in practice because either they were rigid about their vision and unable to really RP with anyone or they were selfish in scenes or were only willing to sit back and let others come up with things for them to react to, ect.

People who suck at writing interesting rp hooks can be all those things too. But I just don’t really think rp hooks have much of an impact especially in the beginning stages. Esp as required by CG. I’ve even played on mostly all roster games where rp hooks were rather tepid or limited to profession/very basic and not very interesting stuff. So really you had to just kind of give people a chance. Maybe it’s that experience and figuring why the hell just not give someone a chance, they’re likely not going to be worse than a control freak/rping mostly with themselves sort of player, my views have softened over the years.

[Roadspike]

If there’s a system with actual merits/benefits/stats for physical appearance, I think that it is totally legitimate to include it in an RP Hook, description, and even short-desc, as well as to pose it in scenes. Because otherwise, it feels like folks rarely acknowledge the points put into those merits/benefits/stats (because so many played-bys are so very pretty to start with).

But in a system without points being spent on physical attractiveness, I agree with the side-eye directed at those who use it as an RP Hook. If you’re not spending points on it, then it’s just like folks on games without social systems always being perfect liars or the Biggest or the Smallest – don’t make a big deal about it, because it’s basically just a player fantasy.

[Pacha]

Agreed! While I get that sometimes someone constantly posing how hot their character is (especially if it is in a very shallow and uninteresting way) can be annoying, it is also very annoying to constantly have an aspect of your character’s backstory or a trait/merit/advantage you spent XP or points or the equivalent on get ‘no sold’ by every PC you run into.

[Coin]

ohhhhh, here it comes.

i can feel it.

rearing its ugly hydra-like head.

that would-be mythical but all-too real mu-forum discussion topic…

… the dreaded …

are social stats worth having and if so is it okay to use them on other PCs?

i thought we left that one over on MSB but hell.

[Jennkryst]

@Coin Wow, that was a clearly thought out, and well-worded response. Please +roll your social skill to see if it worked.

[no successes]

Ooooh, I’m sorry, better luck next time.

Hey @Wuff let’s make out?

[Wuff]

@Jennkryst said in MU Peeves Thread:

@Coin Wow, that was a clearly thought out, and well-worded response. Please +roll your social skill to see if it worked.

[no successes]

Ooooh, I’m sorry, better luck next time.

Hey @Wuff let’s make out?

Roll 'em. Hope you got 8-again on your dice.

[Jennkryst]

@Wuff said in MU Peeves Thread:

@Jennkryst said in MU Peeves Thread:

@Coin Wow, that was a clearly thought out, and well-worded response. Please +roll your social skill to see if it worked.

[no successes]

Ooooh, I’m sorry, better luck next time.

Hey @Wuff let’s make out?

Roll 'em. Hope you got 8-again on your dice.

Alright, LET’S GOOOOO!

I… um. What?

[Wuff]

@Jennkryst said in MU Peeves Thread:

@Wuff said in MU Peeves Thread:

@Jennkryst said in MU Peeves Thread:

@Coin Wow, that was a clearly thought out, and well-worded response. Please +roll your social skill to see if it worked.

[no successes]

Ooooh, I’m sorry, better luck next time.

Hey @Wuff let’s make out?

Roll 'em. Hope you got 8-again on your dice.

Alright, LET’S GOOOOO!

I… um. What?

[catzilla]

@Coin Yes and yes (in most cases). Social characters are great and have just as an important part in games as characters that can punch things really well.

It’s fine if people use social stats on my characters as long as it’s something like “hey you should consider supporting this cause” instead of something like “hey your character should kiss mine”.

There’s a whole system for social “combat” in CofD.

There’s nothing bad/wrong/etc. about playing a pretty/social character. My eye roll/side eye was at people using it (and only it, not as part of one) as a RP hook.

[Roadspike]

@Coin I wasn’t going to go that far, but since you went there, I will say that I think if the game is designed around it and everyone is onboard, and it’s specifically designed to avoid “I roll to get in your pants,” then I think social skills have a great place in a MU* (I would have a hell of a fun time with an FS3 Regency MU* with a social combat system instead of a physical combat system, for instance).

But if the game isn’t designed with all that in mind, I think it’s best to keep it to rolling vs NPCs only.

[Snackness]

@Coin We could always just link.

[Pavel]

[Jennkryst]

@catzilla said in MU Peeves Thread:

… instead of something like “hey your character should kiss mine”.

IN MY DEFENSE, I checked with @Wuff about making this joke before I posted it.

[Wuff]

@Jennkryst said in MU Peeves Thread:

@catzilla said in MU Peeves Thread:

… instead of something like “hey your character should kiss mine”.

IN MY DEFENSE, I checked with @Wuff about making this joke before I posted it.

[Testament]

You just read old threads here, because reliving old drama is only fun because the MU landscape is rather quiet these days? I mean, not a lot of drama. Which is probably good for a change of pace.

[ten]

@Testament said in MU Peeves Thread:

Which is probably good for a change of pace.

I also think a lot of players are lost in Final Fantasy atm.

[Testament]

@ten I don’t have the strength of will to get into another MMO. I lost four years to Elder Scrolls Online to that.

But I respect those that do.

[ten]

@Testament

I get motion sickness from moving too fast, I can’t play an MMO like that. but, that’s the general vibe I’ve been getting regarding the quiet lull in drama.

All are united in a secondary hobby.

[Floof]

I’ve been FFXIV-ing by my lonesome and I’d probably rather be RPing. Like the game is fun, but I’m terrible at staying invested in single player games and that’s what it feels like I’m playing.

My MU peeve tax is that I’m not sure I’m feeling my fav character lately, but the thought of starting and integrating a new one (even with a concept I’m excited about!) also feels meh.