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    Echoes of the Past: Problem Players

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      InkGolem @Pavel
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      @Pavel I think it’s part and parcel. The overinvestment is both one of time and emotional connection. You see it in LARP as well – when people choose the imaginary life and identity over their real one, you get the recipe for Chernobyl-caliber meltdowns.

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        Pavel @InkGolem
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        @InkGolem I think it’s subtly different. You’ve got people who invest so much time and effort and therefore they meltdown horribly, but then you have those people who invest so much time and effort in order to engage in toxic behaviour.

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          Muscle Car @Pavel
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          @Pavel This times 1,000!

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            Gashlycrumb @Pavel
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            @Pavel Funny thing, but my experience of Spider was characterised by them being nice and quite pleasant to chat with and a lot of fun for casual RP, but sharply warning me off for this very gatecrashing of which we speak when I tried to be involved in the story they provided. Happened over at least three games.

            @MisterBoring One of the peculiar things about that very peculiar incident was that some of my crimes were easily disprovable using MU-features. I imagine you didn’t investigate. And why would you? You believed someone you liked and trusted. Which is the same reason I was there at all, and why I failed to leave when the shit started.

            I think most of us are familiar with that situation. Right now I’ve got two RP-buddies I consider friends whom other friends have described as manipulative and toxic hurtful fun-crushers. One by a friend I trust more, but I don’t see it myself so, well, that’s a puzzler and an unhappy situation. The other by people whom I am quite sure were flying-monkey-ing/bandwagoning/dogpiling over a mildly annoying behaviour that others on that game have turned up to eyeball-searingly infuriating without consequences.

            @Pavel said in Echoes of the Past: Problem Players:

            @InkGolem I think it’s subtly different. You’ve got people who invest so much time and effort and therefore they meltdown horribly, but then you have those people who invest so much time and effort in order to engage in toxic behaviour.

            There’s also that trip where a manipulative abuser type purposefully propels somebody into a meltdown in order to make that somebody appear unstable and toxic thus proving that the somebody deserves the harsh treatment that prompted them to, uh. Meltdown and prove that they deserve harsh treatment.

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              catzilla
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              @Evilgrayson Wait, wait. Are you saying that the player(s) on this game in question are VASpider and crew? I thought you were just using VASpider as an example of what this player and crew are doing.

              If you are saying it is Spider, please report it to the staff of the game. I already had one game I loved ruined by her, I don’t want another.

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                MisterBoring @Gashlycrumb
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                @Gashlycrumb said in Echoes of the Past: Problem Players:

                One of the peculiar things about that very peculiar incident was that some of my crimes were easily disprovable using MU-features. I imagine you didn’t investigate.

                What game in specific was this, and what feature access do you think I possessed?

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                  Gashlycrumb @MisterBoring
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                  @MisterBoring MN. So far as I know, you haven’t accused me of that twice. And the features all the players there had, the channels-to-discord and the activity-logger thing. Though maybe you weren’t even playing there, I dunno. It’s not significant anyway.

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                    MisterBoring @Gashlycrumb
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                    @Gashlycrumb The only person I know of getting removed from MN was Polk, and I’m pretty sure that wasn’t a case of toxic intentional gatecrashing.

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                      Gashlycrumb @MisterBoring
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                      @MisterBoring I don’t think he was ever there.

                      "This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard!"
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                        MisterBoring @Gashlycrumb
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                        @Gashlycrumb Yeah, I just checked old posts here, someone mentioned he got banned at MN, check the thread on Liberation from around October 12, 2023. So if he wasn’t there, I’m not the only person who believes he got banned there.

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                          Gashlycrumb @MisterBoring
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                          @MisterBoring No doubt I just forgot. There were a handful of people who got banned there pretty shortly after joining, I can only remember who one of 'em was.

                          "This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard!"
                          – A. Bertram Chandler

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                            Evilgrayson @catzilla
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                            @catzilla said in Echoes of the Past: Problem Players:

                            @Evilgrayson Wait, wait. Are you saying that the player(s) on this game in question are VASpider and crew? I thought you were just using VASpider as an example of what this player and crew are doing.

                            If you are saying it is Spider, please report it to the staff of the game. I already had one game I loved ruined by her, I don’t want another.

                            It’s not Spider, no - just someone using the same tactics - and it’s been reported to staff on both extant games. What staff choose to do with that information is up to them.

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                              Chiron @Pavel
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                              @Pavel or Cadhla.

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                                Pavel @Chiron
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                                @Chiron I wouldn’t even begin to know how to pronounce that one.

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